Lame. On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 3:48 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
> PVC or concrete without trace wire? *shrugs* > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Wednesday, July 20, 2016 3:47:18 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fiber....your worst nightmare? > > Wait, why could they or the horizontal boring contractor not find the > sewer? At my house, there is access both near the house, and in the > easement. (Yes, this is sewer). Steel pipe, not the old ceramic or > ancient wood ones. > > Can't you tone it? > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: > > The problem in this particular instance is that the locate companies > cannot > > find the private sewer lateral. > > The contractor knows this and in most states must make an effort to find > > things they know should be there. > > But sewer laterals are relative cheap to fix. Not necessarily easy to > find > > the place they need to be fixed. > > > > But they will know it is along the new cable and can make some good > guesses. > > Vac truck. Half a day. > > Some sod and everyone is happier. > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Josh Reynolds > > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 2:39 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber....your worst nightmare? > > > > I don't think you understand how this works. > > > > AT&T hires a contractor to install copper/fiber. Contractor needs to > > do work somewhere, so they hire the regional locate company to come in > > and locate existing utilities. Locate company marks the utilities. If > > the contractor hits an unmarked utility, the liability is on the > > locate company. If the contractor hits a marked utility, the liability > > is on the contractor. > > > > If a homeowner does work in the yard and hits a utility without having > > them located, the liability is on the homeowner. > > > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 3:09 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> I dont like intervention from the gubment > >> > >> But these situations are not uncommon, There should be consumer recourse > >> to > >> get made whole in a timely fashion, even if that means accountability to > >> the > >> entity hiring the contractor, as they are there as a representative of > >> that > >> company, at the same time there should be a simplified mechanism for the > >> primary company to recoup the costs associated directly from the > >> contracting > >> company, but the consumer protection and recourse should be a priority. > It > >> shouldnt be a hoop jumping fest for the consumer either. Even if it > means > >> something as simple as if you have easement access, youre bound to a 14 > >> day > >> compensation window to compensate the consumer, at which point its up to > >> the > >> company to recoup those costs either through a suit against the > >> contractor, > >> or in a suit against the consumer. It shouldnt be the other way around > >> where > >> all burdens fall on the consumer > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> And they should. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, July 20, > >>> 2016 1:52 PM To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] > >>> Fiber....your worst nightmare? > >>> The drilling company is liable, but AT&T could pressure them to take > care > >>> of it. > >>> > >>> > >>> ------ Original Message ------ > >>> From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Sent: 7/20/2016 2:57:29 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber....your worst nightmare? > >>> > >>>> Drilling company is on the hook. No question. > >>>> I hire contractors all the time. 100% on them when things like this > >>>> happen. > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Andy Trimmell > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 12:56 PM > >>>> To: [email protected] > >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber....your worst nightmare? > >>>> > >>>> ATT saying they're not involved is really a crappy way to do business. > >>>> The drilling company worked for them so they should do their due > >>>> diligence > >>>> and help the homeowner get what they deserve. If they did they'd > >>>> probably > >>>> have a life long customer but instead they point fingers and say say > >>>> "nuh uh > >>>> not me". > >>>> > >>>> Don't get people some times. > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 2:50 PM > >>>> To: [email protected] > >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber....your worst nightmare? > >>>> > >>>> On 7/20/16 11:34, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Comments? > >>>>> > >>>>> http://via.whnt.com/pLJZ6 > >>>>> > >>>>> If I were on my desktop I'd post the text > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Isn't that what homeowner's insurance is for so the insurance company > >>>> will go after the at-fault party so you don't have to? Good luck > getting > >>>> AT&T to admit to anything. > >>>> > >>>> ~Seth > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > >> as > >> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > > > > > >
