Exactly.  Problem solved if we just use 'merican units.  Damn metric
destroyed our equipment.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I guess California isn't part of USA ese Holmes?   Meters to feet mistake
> crashed a probe on Mars.... Math is supposed to be international.... Oh
> well ...
>
> On Jul 22, 2016 10:31 AM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It's cool, I figure you're from one of those countries that haven't been
>> to the moon.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Harold Bledsoe <hbledso...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> LOL!  Stefan does!  ;-)
>>>
>>> Thanks for the 'merica units help.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:19 PM Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 45 and 125 mph.  No one knows what you're talking about with the
>>>> meaters.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Harold Bledsoe <hbledso...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's actually fairly forgiving.  Our 1.1km link has not lost
>>>>> connection from wind at all and it has been up above 70kph.  The standard
>>>>> and LR brackets are both tested to 200kph for your reference.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> -Hal
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:53 AM Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We are planning to use them on 10-12m steel poles. The poles are very
>>>>>> solid built and with a concrete
>>>>>> <http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/concrete.html> foundation
>>>>>> <http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/foundation.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but they might sway a bit due to the length with heavy wind. Is this
>>>>>> critical? Is failover with 5Ghz fast enough to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> overcome short moves?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Faisal
>>>>>> Imtiaz
>>>>>> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 21:34
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So having dealt with multiple links, I can tell you that if you are
>>>>>> missing some db's it has to do with alignment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are seeing -55/-59 on our 450m link
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  and on our 250m link we are seeing -43/-47 signal (and had to reduce
>>>>>> power on 60ghz on one side.. .i.e. we are not aligned perfectly )
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I can say affirmatively there is no 'missing power' it has to do
>>>>>> with alignment...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *"Stefan Englhardt" <s...@genias.net>
>>>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, July 21, 2016 3:14:16 PM
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you get the calculated rx-power?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *Im
>>>>>> Auftrag von *Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>>> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 20:33
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be appropriate to point out that there are two versions or
>>>>>> Metrolinq 60ghz Radios one smaller lower power and other larger higher
>>>>>> power.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have been using the larger units (Circular cones) for links 250m
>>>>>> to 450m successfully.. aiming them with the shipping brackets is a whole
>>>>>> another challenge.. I am very happy to the the LR brackets available and
>>>>>> those should go long ways is aligning longer links. .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *"Carl Peterson" <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
>>>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, July 21, 2016 11:57:41 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We haven't had any issues with 5GHz but the 60GHz side underwhelms.
>>>>>> We tried a 900' link and couldn't get the 60Ghz side to work.  We were 
>>>>>> able
>>>>>> to move one end and get it down to 600' and have a 60GHz link at -55 but
>>>>>> that is 10-15db below where it should be.  It's working, but at this 
>>>>>> point
>>>>>> I wouldn't use it for anything over 500' or so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We’ve only dfs bands in 5 GHz. Metrolinq supports only the lower band
>>>>>> with lower allowed power (1W EiRP).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ve installed the newest FW before doing anything so I might be
>>>>>> lucky to avoid the biggest problems (hopefully).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Faisal
>>>>>> Imtiaz
>>>>>> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 16:30
>>>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting.. most folks have the opposite issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FWIW, there is no dfs support on 5ghz (not sure about non-american
>>>>>> rules).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are bench testing... you need to turn down the power on 5ghz
>>>>>> .. way down....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *"Stefan Englhardt" <s...@genias.net>
>>>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:13:34 AM
>>>>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Metrolinq
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Got my first links. 60GHz work fine in lab. The 5GHz Part does
>>>>>> strange things. Does not initialze or does not connect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Syslog gives dfs or cant initialize messages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 60GHz is up immediately und runs stable in lab. Latency is low. Feels
>>>>>> like a 1G cable connection. Powered by Netonix 24V.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Takes only 6 Watts. Good build quality. Webinterface is easy and fast.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So a cheap option for fast short hops where you dont want to dig.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carl Peterson
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *PORT NETWORKS*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Baltimore, MD 21202
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (410) 637-3707
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>

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