Don't pure metric countries use kw for hp and newton-meters for lb.-ft.? 



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From: "Paul Stewart" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 2:22:29 PM 
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Not sure there’s an equivalent and curious as I always see vehicles here in 
Canada referenced by Horsepower … 

So I was curious and went to look up my primary vehicle online and here’s some 
things I see: 

Get up to 395 horsepower and 410 lb-ft of torque with this legendary HEMI® 
engine 
Depending on the model, the 5.7L HEMI VVT V8 is available with the 
fuel-efficient TorqueFlite® 8-speed automatic transmission or the proven 
6-speed automatic. 

So it’s a real mixture as I expected … 




From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett 
Sent: July 22, 2016 3:01 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq 


Now that you mention it I'm not sure what the equivalent would be in metric. 



You could express it in Watts, but I'm not sure that counts as metric. 





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From: "Ken Hohhof" < [email protected] > 

To: [email protected] 

Sent: 7/22/2016 2:31:25 PM 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq 



And yet I’ll bet the power is specified in horsepower. Maybe that’s a metric 
horse? 








From: Adam Moffett 

Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 1:03 PM 

To: [email protected] 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq 



When comparing engines, 1 liter is 60 cubic inch....or near enough. 

The 1.6L engine in my Hyundai is pretty standard for compact cars these days, 
but that's less than 100 cubic inch. Did they ever make an engine for a car 
that small when they measured them in CI? 



When I think of it in terms of CI, I would seem like I'm driving 4 weed 
trimmers down the street....but it actually feels pretty spunky. 



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From: "Bill Prince" < [email protected] > 

To: [email protected] 

Sent: 7/22/2016 1:38:07 PM 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq 


For me, 1 liter = 1 quart when I don't want to think too hard. 
bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 

On 7/22/2016 10:24 AM, [email protected] wrote: 





454 Chevy is almost 2 gallons displacement.... 



Liter I have not got memorized. I think a 12 oz can of soda is about 350 
something. 

Just looked it up, 354, so like a Chevy 454 but 354 instead. I wonder if that 
will stick... 



2.2 lbs per kg that one is easy. 








From: [email protected] 

Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:20 AM 

To: [email protected] 

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2.54 

3.28 

.621 



I use these factors almost every day. I would hope most folks have them 
memorized. 

231 is a bit more obscure (cubic inches per gallon) 



I still have a hard time doing the F to C. I know the ratio is 9/5 - 5/9 but 
the add/subtract 32 bit before/after the conversion is something I have to futz 
with. 

Normally I use a known conversion like 20-68 degrees and then play with the 
formula until it yields the correct answer and then I know it for a few minutes 
until the next time. 






From: Ken Hohhof 

Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:10 AM 

To: [email protected] 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq 






I just bought a set of 225/55R18 tires. Talk about mixed units. 225mm, 55%, 
18in. 






From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:44 AM 

To: [email protected] 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq 




Exactly. Problem solved if we just use 'merican units. Damn metric destroyed 
our equipment. 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 



On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Jaime Solorza < [email protected] > 
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I guess California isn't part of USA ese Holmes? Meters to feet mistake crashed 
a probe on Mars.... Math is supposed to be international.... Oh well ... 




On Jul 22, 2016 10:31 AM, "Josh Luthman" < [email protected] > wrote: 
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It's cool, I figure you're from one of those countries that haven't been to the 
moon. 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 





On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Harold Bledsoe < [email protected] > 
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LOL! Stefan does! ;-) 



Thanks for the 'merica units help. 




On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:19 PM Josh Luthman < [email protected] > 
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45 and 125 mph. No one knows what you're talking about with the meaters. 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 




On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Harold Bledsoe < [email protected] > 
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It's actually fairly forgiving. Our 1.1km link has not lost connection from 
wind at all and it has been up above 70kph. The standard and LR brackets are 
both tested to 200kph for your reference. 



Thanks, 

-Hal 




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We are planning to use them on 10-12m steel poles. The poles are very solid 
built and with a concrete foundation 
but they might sway a bit due to the length with heavy wind. Is this critical? 
Is failover with 5Ghz fast enough to 
overcome short moves? 




Von: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] Im Auftrag von Faisal Imtiaz 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 21:34 





An: [email protected] 
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So having dealt with multiple links, I can tell you that if you are missing 
some db's it has to do with alignment. 






We are seeing -55/-59 on our 450m link 

and on our 250m link we are seeing -43/-47 signal (and had to reduce power on 
60ghz on one side.. .i.e. we are not aligned perfectly ) 



So I can say affirmatively there is no 'missing power' it has to do with 
alignment... 



:) 






Faisal Imtiaz 





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From: "Stefan Englhardt" < [email protected] > 
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Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 3:14:16 PM 
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Do you get the calculated rx-power? 


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Von: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] Im Auftrag von Faisal Imtiaz 
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It would be appropriate to point out that there are two versions or Metrolinq 
60ghz Radios one smaller lower power and other larger higher power. 
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We have been using the larger units (Circular cones) for links 250m to 450m 
successfully.. aiming them with the shipping brackets is a whole another 
challenge.. I am very happy to the the LR brackets available and those should 
go long ways is aligning longer links. . 


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We haven't had any issues with 5GHz but the 60GHz side underwhelms. We tried a 
900' link and couldn't get the 60Ghz side to work. We were able to move one end 
and get it down to 600' and have a 60GHz link at -55 but that is 10-15db below 
where it should be. It's working, but at this point I wouldn't use it for 
anything over 500' or so. 



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We’ve only dfs bands in 5 GHz. Metrolinq supports only the lower band with 
lower allowed power (1W EiRP). 
I’ve installed the newest FW before doing anything so I might be lucky to avoid 
the biggest problems (hopefully). 




Von: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] Im Auftrag von Faisal Imtiaz 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 16:30 
An: [email protected] 
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Interesting.. most folks have the opposite issue. 



FWIW, there is no dfs support on 5ghz (not sure about non-american rules). 

If you are bench testing... you need to turn down the power on 5ghz .. way 
down.... 



Regards 



Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] 







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From: "Stefan Englhardt" < [email protected] > 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:13:34 AM 
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Got my first links. 60GHz work fine in lab. The 5GHz Part does strange things. 
Does not initialze or does not connect. 
Syslog gives dfs or cant initialize messages. 
60GHz is up immediately und runs stable in lab. Latency is low. Feels like a 1G 
cable connection. Powered by Netonix 24V. 
Takes only 6 Watts. Good build quality. Webinterface is easy and fast. 

So a cheap option for fast short hops where you dont want to dig. 






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