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Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> wrote: > I can run a WISP by myself, (have been for 12 years), no way to do fiber > without any employees. First two good employees is going to cost what? > $100k/year? I'm gonna keep on doing it this way as long as i can!!! > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: > >> A bunch of folks on this list doing fiber with very few employees. >> Wireless is and always will be ersatz fiber at best. >> >> *From:* Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 10, 2016 12:14 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >> >> I looked into doing fiber a couple years back but was too cost >> prohibitive and was going to require too many employees. Glad I waited >> because now it looks like we can get fiber type speeds over wireless with >> some of the new radios coming out. Plus you wont have to worry about >> someone cutting your fiber! I really did not want to own plant that was in >> the public right of ways. Now i can keep on my plant on private property. >> >> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> My grampa used to say "you can't put 10 lbs of shit in a 2 lb bag"..... >>> I didn't realize there were other variants :) >>> >>> The camel thing is used in the bible as a metaphor for something nearly >>> impossible. "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle >>> than for a rich man to go to heaven"....or something to that effect. (I >>> hope nobody here has gotten too rich, we want to see you on the other side). >>> >>> I imagine Reynolds understands the metaphor, but not the application of >>> it. He may be right to question it. Google has probably weighed the >>> options. . >>> >>> >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: 8/10/2016 1:36:38 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >>> >>> >>> You can't put 12 pounds of shit in a 10 pound bag. >>> >>> You can't get 100 gbps in ~100 MHz of spectrum. >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I have looked this phrase up, but I still don't understand it. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > They may have great RF engineers, but you still cannot fit a camel >>>> through >>>> > the eye of a needle. >>>> > >>>> > -----Original Message----- From: Josh Reynolds >>>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:04 AM >>>> > To: [email protected] >>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >>>> > >>>> > So, I get it. You guys are sitting around feeling so smug with your >>>> WISP. >>>> > >>>> > We're talking about one of the largest and most powerful companies in >>>> > the world though. Do you really think they don't have some of the best >>>> > RF engineering talent in the world on their payroll? >>>> > >>>> > They're not doing anything different than many of us have done, which >>>> > is evaluate the business case for each technology and pick the most >>>> > appropriate one for the application. If it was going to cost you a >>>> > couple hundred thousand just to cross an intersection, you'd be doing >>>> > the same thing too. It's the smart play. >>>> > >>>> > At least they're not doing this in LEC style, which would mean "saying >>>> > they can't do it unless they receive federal subsidies". >>>> > >>>> > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 11:59 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller >>>> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Wait until they experience ducting ;) >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >> From: Bill Prince >>>> >> To: [email protected] >>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:48 AM >>>> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? >>>> >> >>>> >> It's apparently "too expensive" to do underground fiber. At least in >>>> San >>>> >> Jose. >>>> >> >>>> >> Anyone know anything about Webpass? >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> bp >>>> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>> >> >>>> >> On 8/10/2016 9:44 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Google Fiber considering fixed microwave technology as alternative to >>>> >> fiber. >>>> >> Interesting times! >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/google >>>> -fiber-delays-san-jose-project-may-switch-to-wireless-instea >>>> d/?comments=1 >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >
