Who is we? I think Google turned to a garbage generator, look at all the cancelled projects.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 11, 2016 6:24 PM, "Brian Webster" <[email protected]> wrote: > Having been directly involved in the Google Fiber projects, I can tell you > there are a number of factors that caused them to take pause on the > deployments. One was the almost obstructionist attitude of pole owners > (read competitors to their broadband deployment). This forced a lot more of > the project deigns to underground deployment. In cities like San Jose and > San Francisco, there were a lot of requirements that cost more money than > Google budgeted for. In some respects Google kind of had the idea that > cities would remove obstacles like that to get them in their city. With so > much existing broadband already in place, this is certainly not the case. I > think Google thought all cities were going to have the attitude like they > had with the first cities who applied for Google to come to their cities > (Like Kansas City did). > > Google was also of the impression that they could design and permit their > networks and then cherry pick neighborhoods to deploy based on pre-sign ups > (in Google terms - fiberhoods). This creates a huge logistic problem in > planning construction especially with underground deployment. This also > drove up costs. > > Google is still investigating the wireless options. What you will see from > them should be a hybrid network system. They will buy up dark fiber, > capacity on lit fiber, conduit space and whole fiber systems where they > can. They may use microwave to cross connect systems or bridge high > construction cost areas such as railroad crossings. They are looking at > wireless to basically go more from the curb to the customer, especially in > MDU cases. Existing competition and/or existing contracts within an MDU > makes it risky to do a wired play if they cannot assure themselves of a > huge take rate within the MDU. I see their wireless play as more of a high > capacity short hop last mile, but even then they will have challenges with > spectrum, interference and capacity. > > While we all would think Google is a great company with resources to do > whatever they set their minds to, keep in mind I have seen a lot from the > inside. I like to equate them to a group of thirty somethings with ADD and > too much money. They also seem to have the attitude that older folks are > too far behind the times to possibly know what they are talking about. > Google is certainly not a utility infrastructure company and lack the > people, tools and skill sets to be one. They are their own best > cheerleaders and they have a dangerous habit of believing their own hype > internally and are not real good at listening to fresh viewpoints and > outside input. > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > www.wirelessmapping.com > www.Broadband-Mapping.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 1:29 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? > > They may have great RF engineers, but you still cannot fit a camel through > the eye of a needle. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Josh Reynolds > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:04 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? > > So, I get it. You guys are sitting around feeling so smug with your WISP. > > We're talking about one of the largest and most powerful companies in the > world though. Do you really think they don't have some of the best RF > engineering talent in the world on their payroll? > > They're not doing anything different than many of us have done, which is > evaluate the business case for each technology and pick the most > appropriate one for the application. If it was going to cost you a couple > hundred thousand just to cross an intersection, you'd be doing the same > thing too. It's the smart play. > > At least they're not doing this in LEC style, which would mean "saying > they can't do it unless they receive federal subsidies". > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 11:59 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > Wait until they experience ducting ;) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Prince > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:48 AM > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google fiber going microwave? > > > > It's apparently "too expensive" to do underground fiber. At least in > > San Jose. > > > > Anyone know anything about Webpass? > > > > > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > On 8/10/2016 9:44 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: > > > > Google Fiber considering fixed microwave technology as alternative to > > fiber. > > Interesting times! > > > > http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/google-fiber-del > > ays-san-jose-project-may-switch-to-wireless-instead/?comments=1 > > > > > > >
