Flap protection kick in with BGP session going up and down... 
Withdrawing routes via filters does not ... 

:) 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] 

> From: "George Skorup" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 1:47:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bgp automatic drop session?

> Just be careful with withdraws and re-announcements frequently. You may 
> trigger
> your upstream's flap protection, damping, etc. Every carrier we peer with does
> it. AT&T is the most aggressive at policing advertisements based on my past
> experience a couple years ago, and I highly doubt they've toned it down any.
> Had a power issue at a site and our router rebooted a couple times in 5
> minutes. They wouldn't take our advertisement anymore. Took seven freakin 
> hours
> to get an engineer to clear it. So, try not to shoot yourself in the foot.

> On 9/9/2016 9:12 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

>> simple....

>> Adding routes and removing routes is a defined bgp function, and it is
>> considered to be one of a softer impact...

>> killing a bgp session is disruptive, unexpected, depending on timeouts, it 
>> can
>> take as long a 3min to determine if the peer is gone, and then another few 
>> min
>> for the routes to fully propagate across the internet.. meanwhile traffic is
>> still heading your way...

>> Regards

>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]

>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:01:24 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bgp automatic drop session?

>>> Oh well that's easy enough. Why is that better than disabling the peer?

>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373

>>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Faisal Imtiaz < [email protected] >
>>> wrote:

>>>> This goes back to best practices...
>>>> you should be using a filter to advertise the routes...
>>>> e.g. our hiq-out filter .....
>>>> 0 chain=hiq-out match-chain=SDF-11280 invert-match=no action=accept
>>>> set-bgp-prepend=2 set-bgp-prepend-path=""
>>>> 1 X chain=hiq-out match-chain=SDG-10302 bgp-communities=11280:115
>>>> invert-match=no action=accept set-bgp-prepend=3 set-bgp-prepend-path=""
>>>> 2 chain=hiq-out match-chain=TNN-46215 bgp-communities=11280:115 
>>>> invert-match=no
>>>> action=accept set-bgp-prepend-path=""
>>>> 3 chain=hiq-out bgp-communities=11280:245 invert-match=no action=accept
>>>> set-bgp-prepend-path=""
>>>> 4 X chain=hiq-out bgp-communities=11280:135 invert-match=no action=accept
>>>> set-bgp-prepend-path=""
>>>> 5 chain=hiq-out bgp-communities=11280:666 invert-match=no action=accept
>>>> set-bgp-prepend-path=""
>>>> 6 X chain=hiq-out bgp-as-path=^29846_* bgp-communities=11280:235 
>>>> invert-match=no
>>>> action=accept set-bgp-prepend-path=""
>>>> 7 chain=hiq-out invert-match=no action=discard set-bgp-prepend-path=""

>>>> As you can see a couple of chain's are disabled (X)..... that will 
>>>> withdraw the
>>>> prefixes as defined in referenced chains.

>>>> Regards.

>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]

>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" < [email protected] >
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 9:50:20 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bgp automatic drop session?

>>>>> How would you "withdraw routes" on a Mikrotik?

>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Faisal Imtiaz < [email protected] >
>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>> Tut tut Tut ......

>>>>>> let's not start with bad habits...

>>>>>> Best practices would be to withdraw the routes, and not kill the bgp 
>>>>>> session...

>>>>>> :)

>>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]

>>>>>>> From: "TJ Trout" < [email protected] >
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 1:31:10 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Bgp automatic drop session?

>>>>>>> Does anyone run any type of script that will automatically drop a bgp 
>>>>>>> session
>>>>>>> when a upstream is having problems but isn't hard down ? Like packet 
>>>>>>> loss, high
>>>>>>> latency or low throughout?

>>>>>>> I'm assuming it's nearly impossible without human intervention??

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