Yeah, an old TV rotator could do it.  Or a ham antenna rotator, those are much 
more heavy duty.  

From: Joe Novak 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:22 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting

What about those old systems for aiming antennas on tripods from your living 
room? 

Is there anything like that remotely controlled that you could rig up?

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

  Antennas are the easy part.  Dual receivers and the voting circuit is the 
tricky part.  

  From: Adam Moffett 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:08 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting

  Hmm...maybe it doesn't need two radios, but two antennas.  Like a spatial 
diversity setup. 
  I wonder if McCown makes parts for that.


  ------ Original Message ------
  From: "Chris Fabien" <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: 9/13/2016 12:02:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting

    May not be a viable solution with an 11 ghz backhaul, but you could install 
two radios, once that is on target in summer and one in winter, and switch 
between them without climbing at least. 

    On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:

      When you look at the high voltage distribution lines with twin poles they 
through bolt hanger connectors on the poles and then hang the cross braces 
across the hangers.   Poles twisting then doesn't do anything but put tension 
or compression on the cross bracing...  Unless the poles actually start to 
lean, the cross bracing stays pretty much immobile..   But putting two poles up 
pretty much brings it to the price of a tower.

      On 9/13/16 7:54 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

        I imagine the pole would win that tug of war over time.

        Looking at a photo of this pole, it has a noticeable curvature near the 
top.  Maybe we'll move the dish below the curve and see if that helps.


        ------ Original Message ------
        From: "Jay Weekley" <[email protected]>
        To: [email protected]
        Sent: 9/13/2016 10:44:11 AM
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wooden pole twisting


          For us they are and haven't hand problems with twisting.  We've got 
one with a link that's been steady for 6 years or more.  The problem is 
accessing the link on short notice since we don't know a bucket truck and 
operators are very busy.  It seems like you could put two wood posts on either 
side of the pole and secure a 4x4 with large lag screws to keep it from 
twisting.

          Matt wrote:

            I wonder if painting would help keep moisture out?  Maybe its a
            temperature thing too?

            I always thought wood poles would be great for CPE locations but 
now maybe not.


            On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 3:44 AM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> 
wrote:

              I've got a 70' (61' AGL) class 3 pole with an AP and backhaul on 
it.  It's
              been in the ground about 3 years now.

              This past spring we noticed the signal drop slowly on the 
backhaul over the
              course of a month.  A climber went up and adjusted it by about 9 
degrees,
              but he said the mount was tight when he got there.  This past 
month the RSSI
              on the backhaul has been slowly dropping again.

              The humidity here tends to shoot way up in the summer and drop in 
the
              winter.  I'm supposing this beast must be twisting as it soaks up 
moisture
              and then dries out again.

              Is this a problem that might diminish as the pole ages, or is 
there perhaps
              any possible remediation?  I guess the permanent fix is a real 
tower or a
              steel pole, but I guess I'm hoping that one of you old phone guys 
knows some
              magic trick.  Seems like if there was a wire attached to this 
pole, that a 9
              degree twist would put some wicked tension on it.













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