Agreed!

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

> Nice analogy.
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> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Sent: 9/30/2016 1:17:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Not to start a war...
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> if money doesnt go to both staff and hardware, money isnt a good thing to
> throw at it. Underpaid, overworked, under-qualified staff end up standing
> confused poking themselves in the eye looking at the cobblefuckery on the
> network. you can hand the best gear in the world to a guy, if hes just
> poking himself in the eye its not going to do any good. If you have a good
> team, you can do more with less, like ubnt, but if you have a good team AND
> good gear you can do great things and nobody gets poked in the eye
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> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
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>> No doubt there will be plenty of poorly run and designed (and may already
>> be) ePMP and Mimosa networks, but I suspect that the majority of those
>> networks will always be UBNT and maybe some MikroTik, simply because if
>> you're comparing price and the specs that most people without a lot of
>> experience are going to care about, Cambium looks like a pretty poor value
>> in comparison, even with ePMP - as in "Why would I pay $100+ for a Force
>> 200 and only does 200Mbps, when I can get a LiteBeam AC that does 450Mbps
>> for like $60?". You probably aren't going to understand why things like GPS
>> sync, and most of the things Cambium does better, matter until you try to
>> run a fairly large network - and in a lot of cases they really don't matter
>> until the network grows to a certain point, which makes UBNT a fine
>> choice... in a lot of cases probably even the best choice.
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>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
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>>> To add to this, there's a lot of poorly run UBNT networks out there
>>> simply because the price made the equipment more accessable.
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>>> I'm sure there's a fair share of poorly designed cambium networks as
>>> well, but likely not as many (more money in the company, higher % of
>>> experienced professionals, etc).
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>>> I'm sure there will be just as many poorly designed and ran ePMP and
>>> Mimosa networks given time :)
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>>> On Sep 30, 2016 11:08 AM, "Paul Stewart" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ohhh… good conversation in my opinion.
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>>>> I came from a pure Cambium/Moto shop and now work with a company that
>>>> is pure ubiquiti … but i’m not hands on with that side of the shop …. would
>>>> say with everything I’ve seen from a  distance that I really miss Cambium
>>>> gear ;)
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>>>> > On Sep 30, 2016, at 9:47 AM, Sam Morris <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Knowing what you know, if you were starting a WISP, based solely on
>>>> performance and manageability, if you had to be 100% one or the other would
>>>> you select Ubiquiti or Cambium 450x for your APs and CPE/SM hardware
>>>> (leaving the backhaul out of the discussion)?
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks,
>>>> > Sam
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> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
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