You can do a lot with a Procera to deal with stuff like that, some
solutions are more complex than others, but you get a ton of tools.
They'll send you an eval unit for 30 days to try out, so it's pretty
easy to see if it works for you. Let me know if you want to give one a
shot and I can set it up for you.
On 10/6/2016 11:57 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
Well, there's a method to DMCA complaints. It's more about people
who's monthly usage exceeds 600GB.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Simon Westlake" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: 10/6/2016 12:54:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
To a degree, yeah. They have a lot of 'magic' in there, like linking
together initial non-HTTPS lookups to trackers, and then tying them
to subsequent HTTPS connections. The biggest problem with torrenters
is that some portion of them are smart enough to use a VPN, which
leaves you with little recourse. But you're probably not getting any
DMCA complaints about them anyway..
On 10/6/2016 11:52 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
That's good to know.
Can it reliably tag and limit torrent traffic?
I've been looking at methods to do that in Mikrotik and a lot of the
mangle rule examples I see online don't actually work (anymore?) and
the ones that do work seem too broad for comfort. I don't know if
it's a $17,000 problem, but it's a problem I keep getting asked about.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Simon Westlake" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: 10/6/2016 12:48:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
Yes, but most of the time it isn't worth it. You end up paying list
on most of the licensing, and they won't support the hardware if it
fails. They EOL the hardware every 5 years or so as well (it's
still supported for a while afterwards, but that's the typical
cycle,) so you generally want to be buying a newer chassis.
Sometimes it's worth buying a used one, especially if it's a bigger
chassis, but it generally doesn't make sense.
On 10/6/2016 11:44 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
I lost track of whether the license transferal issue was with
Barracuda or Procera or both.
Could I buy a pre-chewed Procera and then just buy the support
contract/license for it?
------ Original Message ------
From: "Rory Conaway" mailto:[email protected]
To: mailto:[email protected] mailto:[email protected]
Sent: 10/6/2016 12:42:19 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
You can't buy a unit that was original purchased by one company,
sell it to another company and then they get a new license.
Basically, if I bought Gino's unit, I would have to pay him and
he would pay Barracuda.
Rory
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
Is that because you didn’t have a service contract with them?
Just curious … or is it that their license is non transferable
same as some other companies (ie. Cisco)
On Oct 6, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Rory Conaway
mailto:[email protected] wrote:
And they won't let you transfer it to another company either.
Rory
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 8:03 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
No we tried to reactivate a license on a unit we decommissioned
and they charged us pretty much the full price as if it were
brand new.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rory Conaway" mailto:[email protected]
To: "af" mailto:[email protected]
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 11:00:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
Unfortunately they won’t let me transfer license or we would be
talking.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 7:53 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
I have a base unit for sale , offf list for more details...
On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Rory Conaway
<[email protected]mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
That's not bad. Barracuda costs more than that for a Gig.
Rory
-----Original Message-----
From: Af
[mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 7:24 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs
Arm, Leg and throw in some fingers.. Expect $15k minimum to
start.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Moffett"
<[email protected]mailto:[email protected]>
To: "af" <[email protected]mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:16:36 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Procera costs
What's the lower end Procera appliance cost? Are there
recurring costs?
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Phone: (702) 447-1247
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Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software
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Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: [email protected]
Phone: (702) 447-1247
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Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software