Why do people act like STP is some evil proprietary Cisco thing?  If you
don't want it, turn if off, but don't make it sound like Cisco pulled it out
of their ass, it's a perfectly standard Layer 2 protocol.

 

CDP you can yell at Cisco (although Mikrotik supports it).  Certain VLAN
error messages you can yell at Cisco.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carlos Alcantar
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 4:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp

 

on the access side where you might have issues with stp is if your customer
is then connecting to a cisco switch these stp messages between equipment
can get funny and start shutting off ports because one side supports it and
the other doesn't.  you'll go crazy locating these issues.

 

 

 

Carlos Alcantar

Race Communications / Race Team Member 

1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010

Phone: +1 415 376 3314 /  <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] /
<http://www.race.com/> http://www.race.com

 

  _____  

From: Af <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf of
Josh Reynolds <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 2:38:04 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp 

 

You veered way off into something I wasn't even talking about.

There's nothing wrong with a loop protect on an access port, but since its
not an official standard, there will be variances in loop detection
algorithm quality and design between vendors. YMMV.

That said, there's nothing wrong with STP on access ports either.

 

On Oct 25, 2016 4:27 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Care to explain? What's wrong with simple loop-protect on an edge port
facing a dumb customer?

On 10/25/2016 3:07 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

*facepalm*

 

On Oct 25, 2016 3:06 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Lots of switch vendors and even MikroTik (in the 6.37 branch, IIRC) support
loop protection. If all you care about is stopping a loop, then use that.
Use STP if you need its functionality.

On 10/25/2016 1:16 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

If one of the ports has a loop, it will block only that port. Obviously,
disable STP on uplinks.

 

On Oct 25, 2016 1:08 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

But if you only have one upstream connection and you fall, it isn't going to
do anything, right?

 

From: Josh Reynolds 

Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:01 PM

To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp

 

STP is a safety net. Its not doing much unless you fall.

 

On Oct 25, 2016 12:44 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

How can STP being enabled help anything if you are not using it?

 

From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 10:10 AM

To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp

 

I just learned the other day thanks to Steve the Mikrotik software bridges
are (R?) STP by default.

 

 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> 
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Actually Netonix (one t, no r). I don't know that I would leave it on, but I
don't know how you're using it.

https://www.netonix.com/wisp-switch.html

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
 

On 10/25/2016 9:04 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Nettonix.

You could always leave it on... If your access network is layer2 up to that
switch, it could help.

 

On Oct 25, 2016 11:03 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

 

just discovered on one of our nettronix switches spanning tree protocol was
enabled.

we've run this switch probably four months - no real side effects - but i
don't run stp anywhere

else.  any reason to leave this on?

 

thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

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