What battery technology is in this powerwall? Lithion Ion? How are they
getting that many kilowatts in a 200 pound package?

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Charles Regan <[email protected]>
wrote:

> No special charger.  You can adjust the charging voltage and LVC on the
> Meanwell.
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> On Nov 1, 2016 4:14 PM, "SmarterBroadband" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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>> Being lithium do the Winston batteries need a special charger?
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>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Charles Regan
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 6:35 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2
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>> We are using Meanwell TN3000, pure sine wave 3000W inverter charger. It
>> has a solar plug too. Cost is 950$
>>
>> Small sites has the 1500W version the the inverter and Winston 24v 60Ah
>> lithium battery.
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>> On Oct 31, 2016 10:17 PM, "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> 60% DOD is pretty conservative.  Do you lose power a lot?  Losing power
>> at this site is somewhat of a hypothetical event.  A Mack truck on the
>> highway wiped out 5 poles and we ran on propane for a whole day.  The
>> previous outage was years before, and I don't expect another one for a few
>> more years.
>>
>> ...and ideally I'm only on battery for a minute or two while the genny
>> gets started.
>>
>> This was my thinking as well.. With my AGM setups I’m not comfortable
>> pushing beyond 60% DOD.. I’m also paying a lot for 10-year rated large Ah
>> AGM batteries these days.
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>> *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>> Mobile: 510-207-0000
>> [email protected]
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>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 2:33 PM
>> *To:* af <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2
>>
>>
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>> Figuring those prices, you're not going to end up too far off from the
>> price of the Tesla for the same run time. Tripling the batteries will put
>> you up to somewhere around $4500, for basically the same kWh, but if you
>> factor in being able to 100% discharge the Tesla setup, you're going to
>> need to add a bunch more battery.
>>
>> I wonder how the life expectancy compares...
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>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
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>> That's the same link I sent earlier, bro.
>>
>> $3049 is list price....you'll pay closer to $2500 - $2600.
>>
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>> On 10/31/2016 3:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
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>> This looks like it:
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>> http://www.aimscorp.net/12000-Watt-Inverter-Charger-48-volt-
>> 120-240vac.html
>>
>> �
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>> $3409/12000=28.4 cents per watt.�
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>> Not too bad considering there is a battery charger in there.
>>
>> �
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>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 31, 2016 1:01 PM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla powerwall 2
>>
>> �
>>
>> http://www.aimscorp.net/12000-Watt-Inverter-Charger-48-volt-
>> 120-240vac.html
>>
>> This has a street price of $2500.� The four SLA batteries were (I
>> think) $160 each.� The 3/0 battery cable was not free, but I don't
>> remember what it cost.� This is only 4800 Wh, but it's trivial to add
>> more/bigger batteries.�
>>
>> This doesn't have any built in network monitoring though.....does the
>> Powerwall?
>>
>> �
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>> On 10/31/2016 2:14 PM, Peter Kranz wrote:
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>> The new tesla powerwall 2 appears to be an interesting UPS option now
>> that it has a build in inverter/charger. 14kWh for $5500, so would run most
>> of my sites for about 24 hours. When I backed out the costs for 14kWh of
>> our standard AGM cells and inverter, I think this price is quite reasonable.
>>
>> �
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>> https://www.tesla.com/powerwall
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>> �
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>> *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>> Mobile: 510-207-0000
>> [email protected]
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