That's so dumb :P

There are quite a few colo facilities where XC is a one time charge.

On Nov 5, 2016 4:51 PM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Cost, yes. At $350/month for a cross connect, you choose your cross
> connect orders wisely.
>
> A router is more likely to need maintenance than a switch. Moving frames
> is pretty easy any may not need much for firmware updates. Routers on the
> other hand do lots of things and with that many things comes the increased
> likelihood of need for a firmware update. Dual routers means you don't have
> to drop your customers to perform said maintenance. You're also more likely
> to be doing ACLs and QOS on routers, which likely reduces performance from
> line rate, especially during DDoS type events. having some extra fire power
> is handy.
>
>
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> *From: *"Paul Stewart" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Saturday, November 5, 2016 10:21:15 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Switch packet loss during high bandwidth
>
> So you expect the router to die?  why not two x-connects to the provider
> back to two switches?  Cost?
>
> On Nov 5, 2016, at 10:56 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I have a switch so I can get a /29 from the provider and have multiple PE
> routers on a single cross connect.
>
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> *From: *"Paul Stewart" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Saturday, November 5, 2016 9:10:42 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Switch packet loss during high bandwidth
>
> Yeah good point… first question that comes to mind is why upstream
> provider connection is connected to a switch … why not go from router to
> provider and then router to the switch keeping all “downstream” traffic in
> the switch
>
>
> On Nov 5, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> With the limited information you've given, I'd put money on microbursts.
> For all your traffic higher than 1Gbps, that data has to get buffered on
> egress ports of devices. Eventually, traffic will get dropped to make room
> for new traffic. This is far worse in places where you may also have
> 100Mbps ports.
> "doesn't seem to be affecting the wan side of my router which connects to
> peers through the same switch" this was the kicker to me, combined with the
> "~2Gbps" line.
>
> On Nov 5, 2016 3:12 AM, "TJ Trout" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I have a 10G switch that is switching everything of mine at my NOC,
>> including peers, router wan, router lan, uplink to tower, etc
>>
>> During peak traffic periods ~2gbps I'm seeing 1% packet loss and
>> throughput will drop to 0 for just a second and resume normal for a few
>> minutes before dropping back to zero for just a second. doesn't seem to be
>> affecting the wan side of my router which connects to peers through the
>> same switch. Doesn't happen during the day with low periods of traffic.
>>
>> I've enabled / disabled STP, Flow control.
>>
>> I believe I've isolated it to not be a single port, possibly have a bad
>> switch but that seems hard to believe...
>>
>> Ideas?
>>
>
>
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