The way I settle unsettlable arguments with my wife is that we both agree to put them off until we are both dead. Then, if any of the stuff we believe in turns out to be true, then we should be able to review the record and see who was actually right.
The shorthand of this is “you’ll find out”. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - trolling again I can't prove you wrong. :) ------ Original Message ------ From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: 12/21/2016 3:43:17 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - trolling again My delusions tell me I am more righter than you. (Actually, I did have some otherworldly experiences after my son died that give me comfort and dovetail with my religious worldview. Is that knowledge? I will let you know in less than 100 years...) From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - trolling again I consider myself agnostic. What it means is that the ultimate truths about the nature of the universe are unknownable to mere mortals like us, that the universe is big enough for a power(s) bigger than us to occupy space in it, and that nothing in our understanding of physics or cosmology disallows the idea of a being bigger than (or greater than, or existing outside of) our universe. It also means that you and I don't really know much about such hypothetical being(s) and neither did the mortal humans who wrote stuff in the bible, the koran, or the book of Mormon. Or more simply, "I don't know and neither do you." Since I don't know, it can't assume that someone else is wrong to revere Jesus (or Jospeh Smith, or Muhammed, or Satan). I do get annoyed by proselytizing, but not by anyone displaying their iconography. So TL;DR: If someone is angry about a nativity display at Christmas time, it's not because they're a satanist or agnostic, it's because they're an asshole. ------ Original Message ------ From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: 12/21/2016 2:09:47 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - trolling again attention seeking behavior most of these "athiests" "agnostics" "satanists" whatever "ist" they present as, couldnt even tell you the basic tenets of their "ist" and all they do is parrot simplistic talking points from the borg of nevergrewups ... "if you celebrate christmas, than a pagan" nonsense like that society has slowly moved to the age of adulthood being a sliding scale, with fewer and fewer on the lower end every generation. the bulk of actual athiests, agnostics, satanists and other non attention whore ists could really give a shit less what others do just remember, just because the loudmouth makes the most noise, it doesnt mean they represent the majority of their fellows. Also, remember, everyone is unique, just like everyone else. On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 12:52 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: We have days on the calendar about people. Presidents day used to be Wash’n and Linc’n bdays. MLK day. Casmir Pulaski day. Columbus day. So, why are the atheists and others so unhappy about displays on public property about Jesus. I doubt anyone in Illinios would get unhappy if the local park had a Lincoln-Douglas plaque... actually Quincy had exactly that. Public displays frequently celebrate or inform about events in history. Our legal system has its basis in the bible, with some of the legal doctrine based on the advise of Jesus. He lived. He taught. He gave advice. It affected history. Just like MLK. But on MLK day do the pentagram sculptures try to share space with MLK events? I don’t get why the Jesus events on public property are such an insult or affront to some people. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
