If Larry Page made cars, they might fly for a while and then they would
be declared old technology and withdrawn with a replacement that would
do something completely different and not necessarily transportation...
On 01/02/2017 10:10 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
If Ubiquiti made cars:
“Our cars will fly. SOON. Try the latest beta firmware.”
If Cambium made cars:
“You need the flight license key.”
If liberals made cars:
“Only the top 1% have flying cars.”
If the alt-right made cars:
“Your car can’t fly because you belong to the reality-based community.”
If Donald Trump made cars:
“We will have the best flying cars.”
If Elon Musk made cars (which he does):
“I think the first flying cars are going to be really very dangerous.
The risk of fatality will be high, there’s just no way around it.”
If Larry Page made cars … they would fly.
http://www.vox.com/new-money/2016/12/30/14105960/flying-car-future-explained
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *[email protected]
*Sent:* Monday, January 2, 2017 11:39 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question
Well, I guess if they change out the socket when they change the meter,
they could put a big ass contactor in there.
Note the statement uses the future tense “will have remote switching
capabilities”. Like cars will have the ability to fly...
*From:*Nate Burke
*Sent:*Monday, January 2, 2017 10:34 AM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question
From our Powerco
https://www.comed.com/SmartEnergy/SmartMeterSmartGrid/Pages/FAQs.aspx
"Will smart meters make it easier to turn electricity on and off when
customers move?
Smart meters for residential customers will have remote switching
capabilities that can be used when a customer closes an account, then
reconnects when the customer starts a new account.
One of the benefits of this remote switching capability is that ComEd
can provide electrical service to customers more quickly, after the
customer has contacted ComEd to initiate service. ComEd can also
expedite the transfer of electrical service when a customer moves from
one location to another within the ComEd service territory.
"
I read into that as 'we can turn you off for non-payment' as well.
On 1/2/2017 11:29 AM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
I have not heard of shutting off the whole house or using it for
disconnects.
The only thing I have hear is shedding A/C loads in a rolling manner
for 15 minutes at a time.
-----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 10:21 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question
Supposedly some of the Smartmeters have the ability to turn power
on/off
based on grid demand/supply constraints. I don't understand how that
would imply the possibility of an explosion unless the contacts are
seriously undersized. And maybe there are no contacts, perhaps they are
SSRs?
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 1/2/2017 8:12 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
I've been reading in the news about the susceptibility of the
smartgrid and related smartmeters. They talk about how a
compromised smartmeter can be made to explode or catch fire on
the side of a house. I'm just wondering how this would be
accomplished. Isn't there basically just a relay and a current
monitor in it. Do they switch the relay on and off rapidly
until it overheats? It seems like eventually the contacts would
heat up and fuse if that was the case. Or are they built like a
Dr Doofenshmirtz innator with a self destruct option included.
