For years I made sure to catch that episode of Letterman each year.  Even 
though it was almost the exact same show, it took different amount of effort to 
nail the xmas tree each time.  I added the expression “herbed up” to my lexicon 
with Letterman.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 12:26 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Mariah Carey lip sync fail

That Lone Ranger story was worth it though.

 

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 1:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Mariah Carey lip sync fail

 

I am supposed to be working...

Stuck in animal farm and youtube hell once again.  

 

From: [email protected] 

Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 12:15 PM

To: [email protected] 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Mariah Carey lip sync fail

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkaWqneQ0Tg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mi_AAGqg5Q

 

From: Bill Prince 

Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 12:11 PM

To: [email protected] 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Mariah Carey lip sync fail

 

I was always partial to Hopalong Cassidy.

 

bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 1/2/2017 11:07 AM, [email protected] wrote:

  I miss Darlene Love and throwing a football at a meat ball and of course the 
Lone Ranger.

   

  From: Ken Hohhof 

  Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 12:02 PM

  To: [email protected] 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Mariah Carey lip sync fail

   

  OK, I did a quick search for Mariah Carey live and here’s something recent.  
So yes, she apparently can sing, although I would rank the performance as a 
“meh”.  Seems like her fans applaud her for hitting the high notes.  And 
dressing outrageously.  Kind of like Steven Tyler?

   

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UOJ2k11YVE

   

  As far as Mariah’s most popular Christmas song “All I Want For Christmas Is 
You”, the radio stations always used to play a totally different song by the 
same name sung by Lisa Layne for Vince Vance and the Valiants.  I never hear 
that any more, which is a shame.  I always looked forward to hearing that song 
(and the barking dogs version of Jingle Bells).

   

   

  From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
  Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 10:18 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Mariah Carey lip sync fail

   

  I know Mariah Carey can sing. There's no doubt about that. In the Milli 
Vanilli case, those guys could not sing at all, and they HAD to lip sink. In 
the case of the Times Square New Years Eve, there were an estimated 
750,000-1,000,000 people there; maybe 10X the number of people at a typical 
Super Bowl.  Incredible chaos. You'd think you would have to have all your 
ducks lined up plus backups for critical items.

   

bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 1/2/2017 8:09 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

    I read something that indicated the wrong version of the song was queued up 
and her earpiece was not working.  If you cannot hear the music, you can’t sing 
even if you wanted to.  I am optimistic that the correct recorded audio did not 
include the vocal, but even if it did, huge productions that really cannot have 
a screwup, like the super bowl, should be recorded in my opinion.  

     

    Physically fit – dancing singers - like J-Lo sure look like they are 
singing.  I think many of them have too much self respect and  pride of 
craftsmanship to lip sync.  But large spectacles like New Year’s Eve or the 
Superbowl should be engineered to not fail and that would mean lip syncing if I 
was in charge.  

     

    From: Jaime Solorza 

    Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:18 AM

    To: Animal Farm 

    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Mariah Carey lip sync fail

     

    Snafu ruined 10CC... Booed off stage... I prefer live performance even with 
few bad notes and stuff.... Watch Steeley Dan recording videos and you 
appreciate the work that goes into recording... Early on Chicago, BST and Todd 
Rundgren did live studio recordings... Mistakes and all... Carey has a voice... 
Shouldn't lip sync

     

    On Jan 2, 2017 8:13 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected]> wrote:

      It's the entertainment business...  It is Show Bizness...

      It is all about illusions.... 

       

      Why should one be surprised ? especially after Milli Vanilli

       

      one can also look at it this way... Remember DJT's comment about shooting 
someone at Time's Square ? 

       

      Mariah butchered It at Time Square infront of everyone..........   

       

      LOL !

       

       

      Faisal Imtiaz

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        From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]>
        To: [email protected]
        Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:43:36 PM
        Subject: [AFMUG] OT - Mariah Carey lip sync fail

        The criticism is probably unfair, since it was a technical snafu, plus 
lip syncing is common at this kind of event.

         

        But I question whether Mariah Carey or most pop singing “icons” can 
really sing live.  Some put on a huge show with dancing and stuff and I cut 
them some slack, some like P!nk and Katy Perry I suspect can actually sing 
without autotune, others like Britney Spears probably not.  Rihanna is 
immensely popular, I like her voice but cannot listen to her songs because they 
are so heavily autotuned.

         

        Why do these stars get paid the big bucks, and how are they different 
from Milli Vanilli?

         

        Here’s a singer who has no trouble singing live, not famous or making 
the big bucks though.  Doing OK but not an “icon”.  Life isn’t fair I guess.  
Maybe being a starving artist keeps you honest.

         

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6or36evZ21A

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-PZgl256-s

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP-to6u8TXE  (1 of 5)

         

        Youtube is a treasure for live music videos.

         

   

 

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