Good news: would probably trip the breaker Bad news: probably not fast enough More bad news: that kind of voltage would probably arc right across the opening breaker contacts
Maybe there's a fuse for that. Like the ones up on poles that you reset with a hot stick. -----Original Message----- From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 9:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question I doubt it. Much more energy involved when a primary gets into a secondary. Not short duration impulses like lightning. -----Original Message----- From: Nate Burke Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question Would one of those 'Whole Home Surge Protectors' Protect against something like this? On 1/2/2017 6:21 PM, Robert wrote: > When I was living in Santa Cruz we had a situation where the wind hit > exactly the right direction at exactly the right speed and stayed there. > The lines started swaying harmonically. Larger and larger loops until > they crossed. At that point ( I was watching it happen from bed out the > back window) it got interesting in the house with every active circuit > with any resistance going bright red. I looked down at a power strip the > old style cream colored one and the whole interior was bright orange. I > was doing X10 at the time and they popped like popcorn around the house... > The wires stayed wrapped and I think a pole mounted breaker blew and > everything went dark.. The sound when they crossed was very loud. > Amazingly I described what happened to PG&E they said take everything > smoked to their office and they wrote me a check right there and then.. > About $1500 which at the time was four months rent... > > On 1/2/17 3:55 PM, Bill Prince wrote: >> We had a situation where the center tap on a local distribution >> transformer got crossed with one of the phases. It resulted in one >> phase going to ground potential, and the second phase going to ~~ 220 volts. >> >> Everything 110V on the dead phase was unaffected (because it was >> dead), and everything 110V on the other phase got fried (because it >> was at 220V). >> >> I had gotten up that morning, and I heard our pool pump kick on, >> which was a 220V motor wired between phases. Sounded like a "normal" morning. >> >> Walking through the family room on the way to the kitchen, I flipped >> on the light, and POP! The light in the family room literally exploded. >> Weird I thought, but the pool pump is running normally.... Not having >> had my coffee infusion yet, I proceeded to the kitchen. I flipped on >> the kitchen lights and POP! another light bulb explosion. Now it had >> my attention. >> >> I went into the garage, and grabbed my DVM (making sure not to turn >> anything on). Going around the house I found some outlets dead, and >> some reading 220V. When I encountered the first one at 220V, my next >> stop was the main panel, where I flipped off the main breaker. >> >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> On 1/2/2017 3:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>> OK, had not consider primaries getting into the drop. Yeah, that >>> could kill everything similar to what she is describing. >>> I am wondering if you hit a light bulb with enough voltage to >>> vaporize the filament will it over pressure the envelope enough to explode? >>> >>> *From:* George Skorup >>> *Sent:* Monday, January 02, 2017 4:05 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question >>> >>> Must have forgot their tin-foil towels. >>> >>> I don't know what the voltage would have to be to jump a light >>> switch, but I can tell you that I've seen it. A few years ago, a >>> tree fell in my sister's neighbor's yard and knocked the primaries >>> down on top of her secondaries. So that was at least 12-13kV. It was >>> ugly. Whole house had to be rewired. >>> >>> On 1/2/2017 12:58 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>> *that device knows I woke up to my cell phone alarm at 7 this >>>> morning, brewed myself a cup of coffee at 7:10, and another at >>>> 7:25,.and another at 8. Then, I took a shower for 10 minutes and >>>> washed dishes after that. * >>>> >>>> *From:* [email protected] >>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 2, 2017 11:55 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question >>>> >>>> Seriously... >>>> >>>> When they publish things like this: >>>> >>>> >>>> "With that flash, every lightbulb in my house had exploded! The >>>> old lightbulbs merely popped and shattered. Those new lightbulbs >>>> (CFLs) were on fire! I could see smoke, smell burning plastic. I >>>> had no idea what happened." >>>> >>>> >>>> So, every lightbulb was on? If not the overvoltage jumped the >>>> switch? How much of an overvoltage event does it take to make a >>>> lightbulb pop like you see in movies? I have never seen it happen. >>>> Especially difficult when the switch is off. >>>> >>>> All this happened because of a smart meter? >>>> >>>> And later: >>>> >>>> "All the while I was experiencing more electrical issues and >>>> finding more damage. The craziest thing that occurred was I >>>> literally was shocked getting into the shower! I went to grab the >>>> nozzle to direct the water down and when I grabbed it, I >>>> literally got a jolt of electricity, my hand stuck, my knees >>>> buckled and down I went. I didn’t take a shower after that, >>>> needless to say. >>>> >>>> When I came downstairs, I heard water and could hear popping. The >>>> main water line from my well had exploded and electricity was >>>> sparking from it." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.dcclothesline.com/2015/06/27/smart-meters-fire-living-he >>>> ll-and-bureaucratic-messes/ >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Robert Andrews >>>> Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 11:41 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question >>>> >>>> Seth, was that meant to be tongue-in-cheek? >>>> >>>> http://emfsafetynetwork.org/smart-meters/smart-meter-fires-and-expl >>>> osions/ >>>> >>>> On 01/02/2017 10:25 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: >>>> > On 1/2/17 09:39, [email protected] wrote: >>>> >> Well, I guess if they change out the socket when they change the >>>> meter, >>>> >> they could put a big ass contactor in there. >>>> >> Note the statement uses the future tense “will have remote >>>> switching >>>> >> capabilities”. Like cars will have the ability to fly... >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > I suppose the other option would be SCRs, but there's heat issues >>>> with >>>> > those as they get bigger. An SCR could start an electrical fire >>>> if it >>>> > overheated. >>>> > >>>> > ~Seth >>>> > >>> >>
