It's mainly JS (client side) that makes the GUI so dreadful.  But, I think
it's improved greatly in 3.x.

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Stefan Englhardt <[email protected]> wrote:

> I realy would not dare to do this with ePMP. Guess scrolling thru 120
> entries with the webinterface will kill the AP ;-)).
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> *Von:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *Im Auftrag von *Mathew Howard
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 5. Januar 2017 20:27
> *An:* af <[email protected]>
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] epmp vs 450 comparison
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> Yes... this isn't airmax we're talking about...
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> I haven't heard of any problems related to the number of SM's with ePMP.
> You're obviously going to run out of capacity if you have too many, but I
> imagine if they were all low use connections it'd handle 120 just fine.
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> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Right....IMO the number of subscribers the thing can efficiently handle is
> basically irrelevant because you'll run out of capacity before you hit that
> number.  That's probably true with a lot of stuff these days.
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> ------ Original Message ------
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> From: "Josh Baird" <[email protected]>
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> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
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> Sent: 1/5/2017 2:08:32 PM
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> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] epmp vs 450 comparison
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> We have ePMP AP's with 55 subs that are doing just fine.  Probably won't
> load any more on it due to high downlink utilization during peak usage.
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> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Over 20-30 subs not recommended by whom?
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> When I talked to Cambium about subscriber density, they said they've
> tested with up to 120, but suggested keeping it under 65.  I do have an
> ePMP AP with 43 SM's at this point, no trouble that I'm aware of.  It hits
> abou 60% air utilization at peak times.
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> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Trey Scarborough" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: 1/5/2017 9:21:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] epmp vs 450 comparison
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> Your biggest difference is your throughput per MHZ your epmp will do less
> bandwidth in a 20mhz channel than a 450. he other big difference is
> subscriber density. It is not recommended to go over 20-30 subs per AP on
> epmp without loss of performance. I regularly see 450 APs with 70+ subs per
> AP. With Medusa I have seen over 130. As far as the Medusa not being field
> proven you may not have field tested it yet, but I know for a fact it has
> been tested and running on networks for some time now and a viable solution.
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> If you have any more questions feel free to hit me up off list.
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> On 1/5/2017 7:36 AM, David Milholen wrote:
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> The radios on these 2 are entirely different. One is using std based
> radio and the other completely proprietary.
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> Since framing will be slightly different and so will processing delay.
> The stds based radio gets close to mimicking the
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> 450 series but thats strictly based on Cambium magic. Capacity and
> sustained rates per VC is the where you will see a difference.
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> Latency will be very consistent from ap to sub. PMP450i is where its at.
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> On 1/4/2017 2:55 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
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> if im running 75/25, epmp is roughly 87mb capacity, 450 93mb capacity
> is this correct?
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> are efficiencies batter on 450 if installation is the same? ie, if I
> forlifted one AP with 17 epmps to 450, where would my gains be
> assuming everything stays installed in the same spot. Its not like the
> FCC gives 450 any more power than epmp, so path loss should be the same.
> Im looking at this epmp 1000 sector thats running overall about 64-7%
> efficient with 17 subscribers and wondering what the gain is to move
> to 450 (exclude medusa, as its not field proven)
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