I glanced at the website, some of the stuff looks neat.  I've got a lake rental 
property - it would be nice to use those particular door handles and be able to 
change the codes remotely or change the temp remotely.  The rest is not as cool 
to me.  We already use motion sensor lights, I have no desire to see my blinds 
go up and down automatically depending on what time of day it is (after all the 
days get longer for six months, then get shorter for six months), plus in terms 
of recurring revenue, i don't see it.

Personally I think more money could be made working with an electrician and 
working on alternative forms of energy - not only that does save you $$$ over 
the long haul but you could setup a return visit to check on everything at 
least once a year - maybe twice - and the customer pay for it out of the 
savings from not having to purchase as much utility power.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tushar Patel 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 12:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation


  I guess it helps to do more research on the product before asking question, 
my bad. 


  Zwave has very competitive list of products.




  Tushar



  On Jan 8, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> wrote:


    I have installed the Honeywell smart thermostats for two way radio repeater 
communication rooms on Franklin mountains .  Emails client when temperature 
varies from his desired levels.   Our summers get toasty so that is his main 
concern... Ice build up on antennas does happen but not much you can do about 
it safely.   


    On Jan 8, 2017 10:20 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

      What he said...

      From: Tushar Patel 
      Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 6:40 AM
      To: [email protected] 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation

      Do you have part list you used you can share?
      You mentioned Zwave. What else?


      Tushar 


      On Jan 8, 2017, at 5:58 AM, Paul Stewart <[email protected]> wrote:


        My house used to run purely on Control4 system .. professionally 
installed and quite expensive.  I got sick of $125 service calls for rather 
simple stuff to be done and decided to replace it with a DYI system…. The 
Control4 system with labour and service calls etc set me back around $25k in 
total.



        Right now with the DYI system I have probably $4k invested plus my time 
… at most.  Zero monthly subscription, zero headaches …. And no service calls.



        The one part though that I think a lot of folks overlook (as I did) is 
working with electrical in your house … I replaced outlets and switches for 
example and the zwave stuff I used is much deeper than normal switches – I wish 
now that I had just hired an electrician to mess around with that stuff in 
particular as it’s not something I do every day kind of thing ….



        I know someone in my area that does home automation for a living … done 
it for years.  He is very busy … his main clients are folks who have cottages 
and wish to remotely control/monitor their properties especially during times 
they are not visiting it very much …  



        Paul







        From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Joe Novak 
<[email protected]>
        Reply-To: <[email protected]>
        Date: Friday, January 6, 2017 at 4:13 PM
        To: <[email protected]>
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home automation



        https://www.reddit.com/r/homeautomation/



        Just reading that a little bit may peak your interest in the DIY stuff. 
I am considering setting up a system at home. https://home-assistant.io/ is the 
software I'd like to use to run it.



        On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:48 PM, jay weekley <[email protected]> 
wrote:

          That's what I was wondering.  I look at the stuff Lowe's and wonder 
how many people have the knowledge to set it all up but I have zero knowledge 
in the products.  Maybe it's time to automate my thermostat. 



          On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Lewis Bergman 
<[email protected]> wrote:

            There is so much do it yourself gear out there now I would think 
the only money would be in the very high end stuff. Things you probably have to 
focus as a sole business.



            On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:23 AM jay weekley 
<[email protected]> wrote:

              Is there any real money to be made in home automation?  Any 
recurring revenue?  How about headaches and problems?




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