We already have gas/oil pipelines to Mexico, but they are predicted to double in volume in a year... Construction not impeded by Native Americans...

On 01/26/2017 11:19 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
once this wall is up, and the citizenship process is fixed (i dont know
why thats not in process, maybe it is with the while "extreme vetting")
we will have more mexicans coming in than ever. And they can actually
make real money, building pipelines to mexico for "oil". like an
innerduct, the bulk pipe for oil, the inner pipe for liquid cocaine. It
will be beautiful, bigly, great, biggest cocaine..er oil pipeline ever.
We will have the greatest cocai...er oil in the world. And whos gonna
pay for the cocai..... oil? Mexico is

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    When you said minefield I immediately thought of the Korean DMZ.
    Another example of successful border wall.
    Hadrian's Wall divided Roman England for hundreds of years.

    Are there any two countries at peace who have a wall between them?
    Mexicans will have to assume that we hate them.

    The drug cartels will dig a tunnel, or use boats, or airplanes, or
    hot air balloons, or whatever.  They make too much money to let a
    little wall stop them.  While they're carrying the cocaine over they
    can make room for a few passengers.  Once we've spent $20 billion on
    our 3200km wall, now we've got to monitor and maintain 3200km worth
    of wall.

    On the surface it seems absurd.  If I perform some in depth research
    will I learn that there's a good reason to do this, or will I learn
    that some politicians are not able to detect obvious absurdity?


    ------ Original Message ------
    From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    Sent: 1/26/2017 1:40:25 PM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. BRING OUT THE KOOL AIDE VATS. The true,
    correct story of what happened at Donald Trump’s inauguration - The
    Washington Post

        Mine fields do a pretty good job.

        -----Original Message----- From: Robert Andrews
        Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 11:39 AM
        To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. BRING OUT THE KOOL AIDE VATS. The true,
        correct story of what happened at Donald Trump’s inauguration -
        The Washington Post

        Last successful wall to seriously keep people on one side or the
        other... Berlin....   Do we really want machine gun nests with
        overlapping fields of fire and land mines?   ( yes I am a troll too,
        sometimes )...

        On 01/26/2017 10:21 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

            I am just suggesting that is a pile of crap to manage, it
            must take
            quite a few people.  I think he is a successful manager of a
            large bunch
            of organizations.
            To do that you have to be able to make decisions and move to
            the next
            item on the list.
            As far as being in over your head as a president, there are
            a bazillion
            little things that you would not know.  For example, go
            build the wall.
            OK are you going to obtain easements, are you going to do
            eminent
            domain, are you going to put on in Mexico without permission?
            Are you going to obey NEPA laws?  Things like that.  I know
            about NEPA,
            am pretty much a NEPA expert when it comes to putting fiber
            lines in
            public lands, but almost nobody knows this stuff.  I am sure
            there are
            parallels in every thing a president touches.  Laws and regs
            that must
            be obeyed.
            Then, you have all the intel and secret stuff that probably
            dumps on you
            first day in office.  All kinds of selecting the best of two bad
            situations.  Homeland type of crap.
            Then they pull out the UFO file.....
            I don’t think anyone is prepared.  Yeah, Ike was probably
            the best
            prepared.  Governors are probably better prepared than Senators.
            You gotta pick good experts to advise you and hope for the best.
            *From:* Ken Hohhof
            *Sent:* Thursday, January 26, 2017 11:13 AM
            *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]OT. BRING OUT THE KOOL AIDE VATS. The
            true,
            correct story of what happened at Donald Trump’s
            inauguration - The
            Washington Post

            Does he give one of his lieutenants free reign over that
            Central Park
            merry-go-round?

            I think a lot of those deals are either licensing his name,
            or providing
            management services.  Both essentially pure profit.  I’m not
            saying he’s
            stupid.

            *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
            *Sent:* Thursday, January 26, 2017 12:01 PM
            *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. BRING OUT THE KOOL AIDE VATS. The
            true,
            correct story of what happened at Donald Trump’s
            inauguration - The
            Washington Post

            Whole pile of companies and properties:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trump_Organization
            <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trump_Organization>

            Looks like a large outfit to me.

            *From:*Ken Hohhof

            *Sent:*Thursday, January 26, 2017 10:57 AM

            *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

            *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG]OT. BRING OUT THE KOOL AIDE VATS. The
            true, correct

            story of what happened at Donald Trump’s inauguration - The
            Washington Post

            Well, I’m not sure Eisenhower was in over his head.  More like a
            vacation after his previous job.

            As far as Trump being a brilliant businessman, he’s more
            like a brand
            licenser and reality TV host now that (almost) nobody will
            loan him
            money anymore.  I remember him being more of a laughingstock
            in the 80’s
            due to his serial bankruptcies.  His modus operandi seems to be:

            1) Create chaos

            2) Send in the lawyers

            …

            PROFIT!

            If you are willing to be ruthless and screw over your
            partners, vendors,
            and fellow investors, there is always profit to be made.
            Until people
            wise up and won’t deal with you.  Then you only have one option
            remaining – run for elected office.

            I also have a hard time envisioning The Trump Organization
            as a very
            large organization with hundreds of divisions.  More like
            Russian
            nesting dolls for tax purposes.  Articles I have read about
            their
            offices in Trump Tower say it is pretty spartan.  And as far
            as turning
            over day-to-day management to his sons, you don’t think that
            already
            happened over the years?  Well, at least Don Jr.  Like SNL
            says, “and
            I’m Eric”.  Maybe I’m judging him harshly because he looks
            so strange,
            wasn’t he Odo on Star Trek?

            I’m sorry, I just don’t see DJT as a business magnate in the
            same class
            with Jack Welch or Warren Buffett.  If you pull any list of
            the top NYC
            real estate developers, Trump won’t even be on the list.
            That’s why the
            actual real estate magnates hold him in such low regard.
            Not that their
            opinion is necessarily more important than your average
            swamp critter.

            *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
            *Sent:* Thursday, January 26, 2017 11:14 AM
            *To:* Animal Farm <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT. BRING OUT THE KOOL AIDE VATS. The
            true,
            correct story of what happened at Donald Trump’s
            inauguration - The
            Washington Post

            I think all presidents quickly realize they are in over
            their head.  No
            way you can actually be prepared for the job.

            But one thing that Trump has going for him is the proven
            ability to
            organize and run very large organizations with hundreds of
            divisions.

            No way he could have been successful in the business world
            without the
            ability to give his lieutenants free reign.

            He is an ass, an megalomaniac, probably a sociopath,
            narcissistic,
            probably delusional – but I have liked everything he has
            done so far
            with the exception of the way he is handling Mexico.  I
            think they need
            to build an electronic wall. Fiber optic cable 100% of the
            border with
            cameras each half miles and drones on each camera pole.
            Crowdsource the
            monitoring.  Let the Minuteman organizations watch things.
            Make the
            cameras IR so if they see something at night, launch the
            drone to check
            it out.

            *From:*Jaime Solorza

            *Sent:*Thursday, January 26, 2017 10:04 AM

            *To:*Animal Farm

            *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG]OT. BRING OUT THE KOOL AIDE VATS. The
            true, correct
            story of what happened at Donald Trump’s inauguration - The
            Washington Post

            Ha... You'd have better luck getting Trump to agree he is in
            over his
            head than getting me to respect or like him... No sale

            On Jan 26, 2017 10:02 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Glad to see you are coming around Jaime....

            *From:*Jaime Solorza

            *Sent:*Wednesday, January 25, 2017 5:20 PM

            *To:*Animal Farm

            *Subject:*[AFMUG] OT. BRING OUT THE KOOL AIDE VATS. The
            true, correct
            story of what happened at Donald Trump’s inauguration - The
            Washington Post

            
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