you are living in what ifs, assumptions, and biased logic. youre doing fine for yourself. Carry on comrade, in fascism younite
On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: > I can't dispense of pretenses I never claimed to hold. > > You said it wasn't a big deal, you couldn't find a source. I provided a > source, and you also found a copy (but failed to read it). Then you said it > didn't read that way, so I highlighted the exact line in question to save > you the time from reading it. Then you went on some batshit tangent about > filing a FOIA on the National Security Council of all things. Then you > brought up "it hasn't happened yet". > > Can you please provide a reference in the history of the world when a > power was granted to someone BY THEMSELVES in government that later wasn't > abused? > > You're blindly trying to maintain a position on this without any sort of > rational thought. > > This is the world our kids are going to grow up in. > > Please, at least try to make it a better one. > > > > On Jan 29, 2017 4:51 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> how centrist of you to devolve so quickly >> >> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Steve, you are a prime example of the failure of the public education >>> system :P >>> >>> On Jan 29, 2017 4:46 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> oh.... so you are saying youre complaining about something that hasnt >>> even happenned... at least thats clear >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm saying if you're going to have a meeting of the security council, >>>> it would be fucking prudent to have the Director of National Intelligence. >>>> >>>> You can't file a FOIA request until after something has taken place, >>>> and FOIA requests are redacted or denied in the name of national security. >>>> >>>> On Jan 29, 2017 4:20 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> thats an awful small amount of text to deliver the entirety of the >>>>> message. >>>>> hwat check and balances are you describing here by a person attending >>>>> a meeting that doesnt pertain to them? >>>>> are you saying they have excluded appropriate personell from meetings? >>>>> File a FOIA for the specific meetings you are referencing. >>>>> reply in line now with the specific meetings you are referencing >>>>> having taken place so that when you recieve the FOIA response we can >>>>> correlate them to the listed grievances you are referencing today >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Here's the line you are looking for. Above and below it lists, by >>>>>> item, who is allowed to attend at all times, and who shall attend when it >>>>>> pertains to them. So who's to say that it ever pertains to them? >>>>>> >>>>>> Our government is based on checks and balances, right? This removes >>>>>> quite a bit of balance when the only individuals confirmed by the Senate >>>>>> may spend the next 4 years without anything "pertaining to them". >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 29, 2017 4:09 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Im assuming this is excerpt of this: https://www.whitehouse.g >>>>>>> ov/the-press-office/2017/01/28/presidential-memorandum-organ >>>>>>> ization-national-security-council-and >>>>>>> >>>>>>> this sounds like bannon is becoming the equivalent of an executive >>>>>>> secretary, not jesus of jihadi as its being portrayed. The NSA and HSA >>>>>>> (why >>>>>>> isnt there a big stink here?) are glorified secretaries (like the girl >>>>>>> at >>>>>>> the desk on steroids) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At no point does it state that the directors are disinvited to >>>>>>> anything that pertains to them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A restructuring with formal time management. Have you watched the >>>>>>> senate hearings... very inefficient time management. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected] >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> His position is mandatory for them to meet. The JCoS and DNI may >>>>>>>> only attend when it is determined it is required. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Text attached from the order. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2017 3:39 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> this im still trying to find a legitimate source of what is >>>>>>>>> actually happening on. just like youre saying it makes him more >>>>>>>>> important >>>>>>>>> than the director of the cia, i cant find much other than ego inflated >>>>>>>>> opinions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Josh Reynolds < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What's your take on making Steve Bannon's new role critical to >>>>>>>>>> the National Security Council (making him more important than the >>>>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>>>> of the CIA) while only allowing the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the >>>>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>>>> of National Intelligence to attend "when it pertains to them"? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This was an executive order... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2017 2:40 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I can't believe everyone is arguing about who lies more. >>>>>>>>>>> Wouldn't it be great if we could argue about the policy and theory >>>>>>>>>>> rather >>>>>>>>>>> than the character, or lack thereof? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2017 2:23 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It sounds like you want a dictatorship. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2017 2:11 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> i truly hope you maintain your thought process, exactly as it >>>>>>>>>>>>> is, and those of like mind, it will make 2020 a breeze. And >>>>>>>>>>>>> ivankas 8 year >>>>>>>>>>>>> reign will be glorious >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Josh Reynolds < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> He's trying to use the very tactics he promotes in "art of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the deal", which basically means "lie about everything, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> negotiate down". >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will be absolutely amazed if he makes it into a second >>>>>>>>>>>>>> term. I am also thinking that the Dems won't have their shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>> together over >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the next 4 though. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What a fucked up place we are in. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2017 2:04 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then even more work can be done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The real question is whether he can keep it up for 207 more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks. And once the news organizations stop fawning over him, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what does he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do? Start wars? Drop a nuke on Mexico? He can't stand >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything else >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being the shiny object, but you tell the news media to shut up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and listen, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at some point they will shut up and cover something else. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody notice all the old actors kicking off? Did they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really die over the past 18 months and the news is just now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dribbling out, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or did the Trump victory just take away their hope? Barbara >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hale was 94, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guess waiting 4 more years to see if the Orange One wins >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re-election might >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem a bit much to ask. John Hurt was 77, Mary Tyler Moore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was 80. I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 66, it's always a bit unnerving when someone younger than me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dies. But >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they say, only the good die young. Carrie Fisher must have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been very, very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good. We miss you, Princess. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prince >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 1:25 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT...A fact check on Donald Trump's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first week in office >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is just not true. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Several fact organizations made it pretty clear that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> untruths from Orange's mouth were about twice as plentiful as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> untruths from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any other politician from either party ( and that includes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clinton). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/29/2017 10:44 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Nobody will ever lie as much as Obama or Hillary. That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a bar the will never again be reached. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Rory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prince >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 11:32 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT...A fact check on Donald Trump's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first week in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > office >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Nothing factually incorrect in that piece. It is largely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion, so take it for that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > One thing that I disagree with is calling him a liar. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think he's not necessarily lying; he just doesn't know the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> truth. Most of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what he says appears to be just made up on the fly, and my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observation is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that his memory is not so good. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > bp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On 1/28/2017 10:48 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> First week...What a joke... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> http://www.dispatch.com/news/2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0170127/fact-check-on-donald-trumps-fir >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> t-week-in-office >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failed as part >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the team. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see >>>>>>>>>>>>> your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of >>>>>>>>>>>>> the team. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see >>>>>>>>> your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the >>>>>>>>> team. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your >>>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your >>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
