Coming back from Jamaica to Miami, customs guy asked several questions but nothing to do with religion....Associating Islam with terrorists is no different than associating Christianity with KKK.... Just doesn't fly.... Interesting that Trump dude wants to be like Andrew Jackson.... Didn't go well for my ancestors...
On Jan 30, 2017 3:30 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: > I have no problem with extreme vetting of people from terrorists states. > > I also have no problem in asking someone their religion upon entering and > if they answer Muslim, asking a few extra questions. It is the ham fisted > implementation that I have a problem with. > > If you have a visa or green card, you don't get refused entry unless there > is a danged good reason that you personally have drawn the attention of the > security apparatus. > > I have had to answer 20 questions many times upon entry of other countries. > > -----Original Message----- From: Sam Morris > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 3:20 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - fake tears > > The other thing to keep in mind here too is that if you listen to the > lamestream media you'd think the entire country was against President > Trump's immigration executive order. It's not. More people approve of it > than disapprove. When I was in the gym this morning, I saw on the > Corrupt News Network (CNN) (and I know it just killed them to have to > say this) that nearly three out of four people approve of the order. > That was spread over three different independent polls. However the > lamestream lapdog media will only run stories of liberal moonbats > throwing hissy fits, implying that no one agrees with the executive > order, when that's simply not true. And that these moonbats pitching a > bitch are in fact, in the minority. > > I have to say that I can't argue with those of you complaining about the > initial plans that would have affected holders of green cards. That was > overreaching, and almost Democratic in nature (see below). > > What can be argued is that it's some sort of "Muslim ban", which the > lametream media would have you believe. It's not. President Trump has > "banned" no one. He has merely put a temporary hold on the immigration > process from war-torn states filled with terrorists - countries upon > which 0bama dropped over 27,000 bombs and conducted countless drone > strikes during his time in office - Democratic presidents have done this > before as well - and more. (Democrat administrations have gone so far as > to round up *American citizens* of Japanese heritage and lock them in > internment camps.) It's not about Muslims. The largest Muslim country in > the world (by far) is Indonesia. Other heavily-Muslim countries include > India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nigeria, Egypt, Turkey, Algeria, and > Morocco. None of these predominantly Muslim countries are mentioned in > the Executive Order. This has nothing to do with a "Muslim ban". It has > to do with doing a better job of vetting those coming from countries > tied to terrorism. > > > > On 1/30/2017 12:15 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: > >> I would venture that is a very calculated risk. slash burn rebuild >> What will happen, that has historically not happened, as is the case >> with most of what your orange menace has done thus far, A games will be >> forced >> Up until this point, demands for strenuous and efficient vetting have >> been met with "thats not who we are" "how will you know" "we dont have a >> religious test" yada yada yad and all nonsense. The vast majority of >> these "protesters" couldnt give a rats ass about the people actually >> affected, they just want to be a part of some movement >> Now, there is zero choice but to actually get some skin in the game and >> build a damn process that is legitimate, or cost people their lives. had >> morons put forth their A game when they should have this would be a non >> issue. >> The absolute worst thing that can happen is the fools who refuse to >> participate allow my team to handle it, and you dont want the right >> delivering their A game, vetting will quickly become enhanced >> interrogation in black-sites, followed up with tossing them in a bag and >> throwing em in the river, if they float theyre isis, if they drown, well >> then praise be. >> >> The demotards right now are forming legislation to nullify the order >> that has zero chance of success, wasting time, tax dollars, and costing >> lives. If they want to protest, resign and go out in the road with the >> other idiots, let somebody with an A game step up. They should be >> working across the isles to get the vetting process in play as quickly >> as possible >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Well, one “good” thing that could possibly come from it is that the >> mess it created might “might” inform the commander-in-orange of how >> huge the law of unintended consequences is when dealing with the >> business of the nation. If he really is as smart as his supporters >> claim, he should be able to learn and hopefully mellow. >> *From:* Carl Peterson >> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2017 9:44 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - fake tears >> <rant> >> I've been trying to avoid the OT politics on the afmug list but this >> is such bullshit that I just can't leave it alone anymore. What >> caused chaos was a impossibly stupid implementation of a poorly >> thought out policy. Want to restrict visas and green cards in the >> future? Fine. I disagree with it but thats how the system works. >> Pull the rug out from under people who we already gave green cards >> and visas with no warning? Your fucking with the word of The United >> States. Your fucking with the lives of people and families who >> trusted in us to keep are word when they took jobs in the US, quit >> their jobs abroad, sold their houses and got on a plane to come here >> only to be told haha fuck you, our word isn't worth shit. Your >> fucking with students and teachers who are going to school or >> teaching here and flew home for a vacation or funeral and are now >> bing told stay the fuck out. Your fucking with people on vacation >> who had transit visas granted by us to land at JFK and get on >> another plane going home. This administration just took a piss on >> the word of the United States of America, either through blatant >> incompetence, or through deliberate malfeasance, and then when the >> judiciary stayed parts of their imbecilic policy, they doubled down >> by taking a shit on the rule of law and refusing to follow court >> orders. >> </rant> >> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:37 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Fake news, alternative facts, now we have airport chaos caused >> by Chuck Schumer’s “fake tears”:____ >> >> >> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/30/trump-takes-aim- >> at-sen-schumer-s-tears-in-new-defense-refugee-order.html >> >> <http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/30/trump-takes-aim- >> at-sen-schumer-s-tears-in-new-defense-refugee-order.html>____ >> >> ____ >> >> I didn’t know his tears were so powerful. Hey Chuck, can you >> cry me up a new car? Or maybe one of Forrest’s new >> RackInjectors? I know some people whose racks need injecting. >> Or maybe a 450m, my beams need forming.____ >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Carl Peterson >> >> *PORT NETWORKS* >> >> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >> >> Baltimore, MD 21202 >> >> (410) 637-3707 <tel:(410)%20637-3707> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> > >
