I see Zhone has an outdoor NID that takes an SFP now. ZNID-GE something or other. I imagine it's fairly pricey though.

On 2/6/2017 7:52 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
All of these things.

I use flat drop and strip it down to the buffer tube upon entry to the enclosure. A way to attach the strength members a few inches inside of the cable entry port would be nice, accepting 1" conduit would be helpful as well.

Also, there needs to be an easy way to pull and replace the electronics without having to change the enclosure or re-splice.

I pay about $65 for the RB260GS and a Corning enclosure, but you could get a bit more if everything was integrated properly.

-Jason

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:33 PM, Sterling Jacobson <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hardware wise, I need it to have a good splice tray or system
    integrated.

    Our fiber drop cable is bigger than a buffer tube, lol!

    So these other guys outdoor units already miss the boat by not
    understanding that.

    Ideally it would have a way to attach to the wall and have a
    conduit entry, maybe an inch or inch and half to secure directly
    to the conduit so it’s a ‘closed’ conduit system.

    The tray area needs to be able to handle a bit of 2-4 strand or
    two buffer tubes of 2 strands each.

    We only terminate one strand for BIDI, but have two or four
    included in the drop as backup.

    Again, the drop fiber outer diameter is at least a quarter inch wide.

    It would ideally have secure tie down points for the drop fiber
    outer casing, and maybe clear tray cover for the inner tubes and
    fiber.

    Needs a tie down for the splice because we fusion on a length of
    patch LC cable to it.

    Power wise, POE is great, but would be nice to have both external
    AND POE available for redundancy.

    I don’t need POE out at all, I’m not doing radio stuff, I just use
    it as demarcation and convert to existing Ethernet at the side of
    the house.

    I need a way to attach an asset tag to it so I cannot be opened
    without breaking the tag.

    Our plastic tag feeds are about 1/8 inch round.

    It might also be nice if there were a back side feed to bring the
    Ethernet in directly from the back part of the unit somewhere.

    I mean, to mount the NID directly on top of where the Ethernet
    from the unit/house comes out.

    Most of the Ethernet we work with is indoor that’s left dangling
    outdoors for years.

    We usually put a box over it and use liquitight conduit to bring
    the Ethernet to the NID.

    Functionally it must be able to convert a full 1Gbps FDX of
    course, but I assume your device already does that.

    Management wise I would need SNMP and VLAN capable IP
    assignment/management.

    I don’t use a lot of the features of the RB260GS, but I do use the
    neighborhood discovery name.

    I do use filtering to disallow DHCP advertising in case they plug
    the Ethernet into the LAN side of their network.

    I also use the basic throttling on the web page to take it down to
    110Mbps up and down from 100Mbps.

    And finally, if you had this same thing in a bigger model
    accepting a SFP+ module with 10Gbps switching on around 8 GigE
    ports with the same features I would use that as well.

    *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Harold Bledsoe
    *Sent:* Monday, February 6, 2017 6:10 PM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] POE Fiber Transceiver

    Sure, why not. What all do you need it to do?

    Hal

    On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:48 PM Sterling Jacobson
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Nice.

        The problem with the Mikrotik, UBNT and IgniteNet converters
        is that they are not manageable.

        For about $40 I was getting a manageable solution with
        monitoring (SNMP) built in.

        It wasn’t water proof, so I still needed a splice tray and NID
        enclosure.

        It would be of great interest to me if someone combined all of
        this together into a single outdoor NID unit that was POE and
        manageable with SNMP.

        *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Harold Bledsoe
        *Sent:* Monday, February 6, 2017 5:33 PM


        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] POE Fiber Transceiver

        We have something similar too and available in qty as well.

        http://www.ignitenet.com/products/mmc/
        <http://www.ignitenet.com/products/mmc/>

        Hal

        On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:09 PM Sterling Jacobson
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            I forgot about those.

            I’ll have to look around.

            *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Brett A
            Mansfield
            *Sent:* Monday, February 6, 2017 4:57 PM


            *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] POE Fiber Transceiver

            Can you find any of these?

            https://routerboard.com/RBFTC11
            <https://routerboard.com/RBFTC11>

            Thank you,

            Brett A Mansfield


            On Feb 6, 2017, at 4:33 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

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                *From: *"Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>>
                *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                *Sent: *Monday, February 6, 2017 5:33:04 PM
                *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] POE Fiber Transceiver

                Sorry for the ignorance...

                But what do you mean by "primary SFH" ??

                SFH = ???

                Regards.

                Faisal Imtiaz
                Snappy Internet & Telecom
                7266 SW 48 Street
                Miami, FL 33155
                Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>

                Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>
                Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>

                ----- Original Message -----
                > From: "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>>
                > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                > Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 6:23:16 PM
                > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] POE Fiber Transceiver

                > I've been using Mikrotik/Routerboard RB260GS switches
                as my primary SFH
                > transceiver for years.
                >
                >
                >
                > -----Original Message-----
                > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
                Faisal Imtiaz
                > Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 4:20 PM
                > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] POE Fiber Transceiver
                >
                > Pray tell me ... what is this POE Fiber Transceiver
                you are talking about ?
                > I am willing to be enlightened !
                >
                > Faisal Imtiaz
                > Snappy Internet & Telecom
                > 7266 SW 48 Street
                > Miami, FL 33155
                > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>
                >
                > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>
                Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>
                >
                > ----- Original Message -----
                >> From: "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>>
                >> To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>"
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                >> Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 5:58:18 PM
                >> Subject: [AFMUG] POE Fiber Transceiver
                >
                >> Looks like the RB260GS modules I use for POE fiber
                transceiver are
                >> backordered until next never.
                >>
                >> Are there any alternatives?
                >>
                > > Seems like all the regular transceivers are not POE.

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        Harold Bledsoe

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