I would check the rev of the GIGE-APC card.  Older cards did not play well with 
ePMP sync over power.  

From: Brandon Yuchasz 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 7:39 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and Packet Flux configuration settings. (UPDATE)

Forest,

Thanks for the reply. I will answer your questions below but won’t be able to 
try the breaking of the shielded cable until I visit the site again. It could 
be a couple weeks before I am there again.

Here is the info:

 

We were running 24 volts ( although as you pointed out I took it up to 48 volts 
by putting it in place of the 450i) I did not have a 30 volt on the truck so 
put the 24 volt in until I could replace it.

 

Cable length is less than 200 feet probably closer to 180 feet.

 

It was about 40 degrees F when I was trying to do this and sunny.

 

This is a gigabit sync injector . The 450i  that I plugged it in place of was/ 
is being fed by a PowerInjector Plus. ( have not touched the jumpers)

 

These are being feed through a MTOW ( newest version rack mount APC style ) 
suppression. I could look it up for model but I think you know what I mean. 

 

One thing worth mentioning is my MicroTik RB1100 was having issues negotiation 
Gig connections on the ePMP APs and the 450i  APs. I ended up letting it 
negotiate 100mb instead. The ePMP backhauls are running auto negotiated gig no 
problem but are on Cambium OEM POE instead of a packetflux for power. Same 
suppression in place and same shielded cables.

 

Let me know your thoughts. I am happy to try breaking the shielding connection 
and report back but like I said it could be a few weeks.

 

Thanks Brandon

 

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List 
Account)
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 5:02 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and Packet Flux configuration settings. (UPDATE)

 

It sounds like you covered all of your bases, especially since you plugged the 
ePMP radio in where the 450i was and it didn't work.    So some of the ones 
below don't seem to apply:

What voltage are you running the injector at?

How much cable length are you running?

The ePMP radios reallly are picky about 24V and long cable runs, especially 
when it's cold out.  

This is a gigabit syncinjector, right?  If so, I won't ask you if you changed 
any jumpers in the units.

I do have one very odd request:

If these are shielded cables running up the tower, can you somehow break the 
shield on the bottom end?   A short unshielded pigtail to a keystone jack often 
works.  If you have a surge protector at the bottom, try inserting this either 
between the injector and the surge, and alternatively between the surge and the 
cable up the tower.    I've had 1-2 reports that reterminating the cables with 
unshielded ends at the bottom causes otherwise unsyncable ePMP radios to 
suddenly start receiving sync.

 

-forrest

 

On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 9:14 PM, Brandon Yuchasz <[email protected]> wrote:

So to update this previous post.  Went to the site and confirmed that yes we 
were getting the blinking sync light on the SyncInjector feeding the ePMP APs, 
I logged into the AP that did not have GPS and set it to use the CMM3. Rebooted 
and no joy still no GPS. Frustrated I ended up unplugging the cable feeing one 
of my 450iAPs that was receiving sync from the PowerInjector Plus and plugged 
the ePMP APs cable into it. Still no joy no GPS after waiting several minutes. 
I am not sure how my 450i APs can be receiving GPS from the unit but the ePMP 
doesn’t from the same feed. 

 

I ended up doing a climb and relocated the antenna for the onboard GPS in the 
ePMP. It now has GPS from the onboard unit but it would still be nice to have 
the secondary over power working.

 

Any thoughts I am all ears.

 

Thanks,

Brandon

 

 

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 12:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and Packet Flux configuration settings.

 

I don't have any CTMs. But I believe the CTM1 = CMM3 and CTM2 = CMM4.

On 2/20/2017 11:48 AM, Dan Petermann wrote:

  Do you know what to select when using a CTM?

   

  On Feb 17, 2017, at 12:53 AM, George Skorup <[email protected]> wrote:

   

  If the 1PPS LED is blinking on the daisy-chained SyncInjector, then I'd say 
it's fine with a straight-through cat5.

  The ePMP1000 GPS radios will take 802.3af or Canopy -4/5 +7/8 at either 24 or 
48 volts. Running them at 48-56 as others have pointed out several times in the 
past is better with the cold startup and whatnot.

  The ePMP Sync radios don't do AutoSync like Canopy. You have to select 
internal (generate in Canopy terms), GPS (on-board), CMM3 or CMM4 for Sync 
Source on the Config > Radio page. You want to select CMM3 when using a 
PacketFlux injector.

  On 2/16/2017 11:58 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

    Thanks,

    Patch between the two packetflux is 1 foot.

    ePMP is running 6.2.1.X ( don�t want to go to 3.2.x until they work out 
one more bug. )

    Using the SyncBox Junior for the syncpipe.

    Cable runs to the APs are 140 feet

    �

    �

    From:�Af [mailto:[email protected]]�On Behalf Of�That One Guy 
/sarcasm
    Sent:�Thursday, February 16, 2017 11:51 PM
    To:�[email protected]
    Subject:�Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and Packet Flux configuration settings.

    �

    Shorter the better on the cable

    Update all the components to the current firmware, and verify the syncpipe 
is the right revision. The default pinout on the pins inside works with 48v ps

    �

    On Feb 16, 2017 11:35 PM, "Brandon Yuchasz" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Hopefully and easy question here.

    �

    We have always used the onboard GPS for ePMP access points up until this 
point.� We recently installed 4 new ePMP APs and the tower blocks our north 
facing AP from getting GPS on the onboard GPS. All other track GPS just fine. 
We also have 450 APs on the tower and are using a PacketFlux PowerInjector Plus 
to power them and provide GPS and its working fine. I then installed a Gigabit 
SyncInjector ( had it on the shelf new) �to power the ePMP APs and connected 
it to the GPS feed with a standard patch cable on the PowerInjector Plus. Light 
flashes shows its getting GPS but no joy on the ePMP AP.

    �

    So my questions are :

    �

    what configuration should I use in the ePMP AP?

    �

    And I am fairly sure stadard patch cable is acceptable between the two 
packet flux but I wanted to confirm?

    �

    Thanks everyone.

    �

    Brandon Yuchasz

    �

    �

   

   

   

 




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