Is that some sort of communist DHCP server?

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On 2/27/2017 3:18 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote:

Rouge dhcp server along with mac and IP.

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*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy /sarcasm
*Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 4:54 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

DHCP alert will tell me if there is an IP thats not a DHCP server?

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Dennis Burgess <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    ARPs will not come though as you don’t have anything on that
    subnet.  DHCP-Alert is what you want.

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    *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy /sarcasm
    *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 4:19 PM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

    Im mainly looking for IP space that shouldnt be present, DHCP or not.

    I can packet sniff and exclude all configured subnets on that
    bridge, but  its a pain

    I didnt know if there was arp monitor or something along those
    lines. collecting gratuitous ARPs or something like that

    I see alot of false 192.168.1.1 when i stick that subnet on the
    interface, it doesnt respond and often times has the customer IP
    arp listed as well sometimes its the same mac, sometimes its one
    digit off like a reboot cycling up in switch then into router mode
    during boot cycle. I see it alot with netgear macs.

    alot of times the 192.168.1.1 is persistent even though its not
    responding or otherwise apparently even active

    On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Oh? I never noticed that feature.

        If you get the offender's MAC address it should be trivial to
        find them at that point.  That's really all you need.

        ------ Original Message ------

        From: "Dennis Burgess" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>

        To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>

        Sent: 2/27/2017 5:01:12 PM

        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

            MIkroTik does have a dhcp alert detection as well.  It
            will not detect the dhcp sever on the router.  It will
            give you basic information such as MAC address etc, but
            really don’t help you too much. But neither will turning a
            DHCP client on.  You have to find where that client is and
            turn them off.

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            Consultant *

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            *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Dennis Burgess
            *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 3:59 PM
            *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

            Switch can do it too, port isolation! Lol  note, not a
            dumb switch though.   Nettoix I belive does it.

            */_Dennis Burgess_/**–**Network Solution Engineer –
            Consultant *

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            <mailto:[email protected]>

            *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of
            *Adam Moffett
            *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 3:57 PM
            *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

            Only on two different router interfaces.  If they're on a
            switch, then no.


            I think Dennis may be referring to how you should ideally
            have things configured, and I think you're talking
            specifically about the feature in Canopy equipment labeled
            "SM Isolation".

            Ideally, yeah you should make it so one customer can't
            break everyone.  That's a multi-faceted thing and SM
            Isolation is one component of it.

            If you're looking specifically for a router plugged in
            backwards, add a DHCP-client to the interface facing the
            AP, and (*critical*) uncheck the boxes for "add default
            route" and "add peer DNS".  That might be the kind of
            quick, simple test you're hoping for.

            ------ Original Message ------

            From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>

            To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>

            Sent: 2/27/2017 4:42:02 PM

            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

                clients on two different access points wil be blocked
                by client isolation?

                On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Dennis Burgess
                <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    There is no reason why it would and should not .
                    JYou can easily allow the one offs …

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                    – Consultant *

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                    *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *That
                    One Guy /sarcasm
                    *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 1:13 PM
                    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for
                    unknown subnets

                    A. we have some locations where we dont use client
                    isolation and B client isolation doesnt apply to
                    two access points as far as I know

                    On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Dennis Burgess
                    <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                        Your client isolation should take care of
                        that. FYI.

                        */_Dennis Burgess_/**–**Network Solution
                        Engineer – Consultant *

                        MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
                        
<http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewcontent.asp?idpage=5>–
                        MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE

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                        www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/>

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                        www.towercoverage.com
                        <http://www.towercoverage.com/>

                        Office: 314-735-0270 <tel:%28314%29%20735-0270>

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                        <mailto:[email protected]>

                        *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of
                        *That One Guy /sarcasm
                        *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 12:42 PM
                        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for
                        unknown subnets

                        I wasnt clear, I was actually looking for
                        rogue subnets in general

                        another issue example is that a customer with
                        some time clocks recently had a slick tech put
                        a switch in before the router at multiple
                        locations from the same site, different APs,
                        we bridge the APs at the POP, so they were
                        directly communicating

                        On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Faisal
                        Imtiaz <[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                            You might find the useful.

                            https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=23640

                            Regards.

                            Faisal Imtiaz
                            Snappy Internet & Telecom
                            7266 SW 48 Street
                            Miami, FL 33155
                            Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
                            <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>

                            Help-desk: (305)663-5518
                            <tel:%28305%29%20663-5518>Option 2 or
                            Email: [email protected]
                            <mailto:[email protected]>

                            
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                                *From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm"
                                <[email protected]
                                <mailto:[email protected]>>
                                *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                                *Sent: *Monday, February 27, 2017
                                11:34:59 AM
                                *Subject: *[AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view
                                for unknown subnets

                                If, for example a customer has a
                                router connected backward, is there an
                                arp(ish) check aside from packet
                                sniffing to see this since its not a
                                subnet on the interface and there wont
                                be an arp entry?



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