From: Ryan Ray 
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 1:23 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP 
non-businessrelated discussions

I use rule in the loosest of ways. I think everyone who posts here can self 
police and it's not like we need a moderator to sift thru posts and finger wag 
people who are breaking "the rules". Politics tear people apart, doesn't seem 
to be any different here. 

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

  I don’t like rules and I don’t want to be bothered with more filter strings 
in the subject, but a POL filter would be nice.   Or should that be [POL]?


  From: Ryan Ray 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 1:19 PM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP 
non-businessrelated discussions

  I've been a quiet member of this list for almost 10 years now and I like the 
OT stuff, except for the trump/politics. Would anyone be up for a hard and fast 
rule of no trump / politics talk? That seems to be where the majority of the 
garbage was from these last few weeks. 

  On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> 
wrote:

    I  am giving up Trump posts for Lent....I am thinking of showing up at 
Animal Farm.... Promise no weapons on my person ...Just have to move stuff 
around..

    On Mar 1, 2017 12:44 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

      And I do have to say thank you to Paul for keeping this thing alive.  
Without him it would have died.  

      From: Chuck McCown 
      Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:37 PM
      To: [email protected] 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP 
non-businessrelated discussions

      I agree, it gets out of hand.  
      Sometimes I say something but most of the time I let the self policing 
nature of the list do what nature does.  

      For many of us, this list is as close to social media we want to go.  
      Many of us have been on here since it was part-15.  15 years or so.  

      Personally I don’t have any desire for the list to grow or shrink or 
change other than to remain a place where we can hang out.  This list is most 
certainly not a “safe place” and you will not see trigger warnings unless you 
see the occasional literal “trigger warning”.  It is kinda like a friendly bar 
that I can hang out in without my Mormon neighbors seeing me parked out front.  

      Once upon a time Doug Clark was a semi offical list daddy.  That lasted 
until Doug got pissed about something.  

      As always ALL opinions will be more-or-less welcomed.  



      From: Paul McCall 
      Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:25 PM
      To: [email protected] 
      Subject: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-business 
related discussions

      I shared this with Chuck McCown, and he suggested I share this with the 
list directly, so here goes.



      Just FYI, in my normal business conversations with WISPs,  I get one or 
two people a week tell me they no longer look at the list because of all the 
BS, politics, etc.  I also don’t use AFMUG nearly as much as I used to because 
of that.  



      While it costs me $$ for every email sent (I have never complained), AWS 
is very solid and reliable, so it was a great choice.  That’s not the point of 
my comment.



      People need to take that junk to some other venue, so we can focus on 
important technology and business needs, IMO.  



      It probably won’t change but it’s my 2 cents.



      Paul





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