I sent $50. I really appreciate your doing this Paul.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 3/2/2017 3:04 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
OK folks, let’s crowd fund the list a bit. Just a few C notes will
keep it running for a year.
If you care to help out, PayPal your dirty socks, used tires and extra
cash to: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*From:* Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Thursday, March 02, 2017 9:46 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Paul's SUMMARY: List topics and verboseness of
non-WISPnon-business related discussions
What paypal account do you want filled with money?
*From:* Paul McCall
*Sent:* Thursday, March 02, 2017 9:27 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Paul's SUMMARY: List topics and verboseness of
non-WISP non-business related discussions
My comment truly was NOT about cost. I GLADLY did this to support
Chuck and support the valued members that found the list a great
resource. PDMNet wanted to give back to the WISP community.
Just for the record, the list costs about $ 150 /month (varies
slightly by traffic) on an AWS server, plus $ 99 /month for medium
priority support. I could cut out the support probably because we
haven’t needed it now for at least 6 months. At the time, there was a
LOT of setup, and I mean a LOT to fully integrate properly with AWS.
They are very particular to how email flows, their API etc. We had
this discussion early on, and I believe we made the right decision.
After the loooong setup, we haven’t deal with a server based delivery
issue in over a year. No getting blacklisted, no other drama. We
wanted simple and stable and relatively maintenance free. I love
maintenance free.
I love the light-hearted nature of the members and until the political
season came, the “extra stuff” didn’t phase me (or others). I
absolutely LOVE hear about Travis other business efforts, or stocks
people are investing or anything like that. That’s what USED TO BE
labeled as OT: I wouldn’t want to filter that. I love hearing what
this groups other opinions are on a multitude of OT subjects. On the
flip side, I can’t stand the absolute garbage that gets spewed (JMO)
over and over… and over. We get it. You don’t like the president AT
ALL. You want to continue to trash him ALL the time. We get it. We
truly do. You have fully expressed yourself. You won’t change
anybody’s mind who does hatse the president or his policies. Ever.
Move on. PLEASE. JMO
As Forrest said, the better we get at running our business, the less
technical questions get asked and the group has a social feel.
While it does take just a while to delete the obvious junk by its
title, it seems to creep into many other “normal threads” also. The
last 6 months, good contributing members have become distant or gone
completely. Some people do not want to have to sort through the
muck. Same reason I chose to never watch CNN or FoxNews on TV. It’s
mostly garbage. Sometimes people don’t complain. They just go
away. I chose to say something.
Chuck wants the list to be self-policing. Create a new subject header
like PRS: for blatantly Political, Religious, and Social) or something
similar and then we can truly filter that “stuff” so we never see it.
Paul
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Paul Stewart
*Sent:* Thursday, March 2, 2017 6:57 AM
*To:* Animal Farm <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP
non-business related discussions
I offered before to run it for free …. just saying .. and I know there
were others too …
Running mailing lists isn’t a major investment especially if you
already have the infrastructure (which I do)
Paul
On Mar 1, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
I agree. The list keeps me out of the bar. I know it's too far to
drive anyway, but it's my excuse. I would be happy to through in
something to avoid draining Paul's bank account. There are plenty
of us. Couldn't be more than $100/month each.
bp
On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 12:09 PM, Josh Luthman
<[email protected]> wrote:
I can two click delete emails from this list, last few weeks have
been utter garbage for sure.
What's the monthly cost of the list? I think those of us that have
benefited from it could throw a few bucks to help you out.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Paul McCall <[email protected]> wrote:
I shared this with Chuck McCown, and he suggested I share this
with the list directly, so here goes.
/Just FYI, in my normal business conversations with WISPs, I
get one or two people a week tell me they no longer look at
the list because of all the BS, politics, etc. I also don’t
use AFMUG nearly as much as I used to because of that. /
//
/While it costs me $$ for every email sent (I have never
complained), AWS is very solid and reliable, so it was a great
choice. That’s not the point of my comment./
//
/People need to take that junk to some other venue, so we can
focus on important technology and business needs, IMO. /
//
/It probably won’t change but it’s my 2 cents./
Paul
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