Current  limiting on the rectifier is always a good thing.  During recharge 
during deep discharge, hopefully the voltage did not go low enough to cause the 
system to fail.  If it did, then perhaps you should have had a low voltage 
disconnect, back up generator or larger battery.  

But having the batts pull down and starve the load will always happen to a 
certain extent.  If the system is still up when that happens it will not go 
down, it will just be low voltage for a while.  

From: George Skorup 
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 7:27 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC Power Site

Yeah, I wouldn't do that. No charge current limiting means the batteries will 
likely pull down the supply and starve the load. Also pay attention to the 
initial current spec on the batteries. Smaller ~9-20Ah batteries call for 2A or 
so. The Mean Well DR-UPS40 is capable of 40A @ 27VDC and limits the charging 
current to 2 or 2.5A I believe. It's a decent cheap option.

There's also the Mean Well DRC-100 A (12VDC) or B (24VDC). I wish they made a 
48V version. 100W and 1.25A of charging current which is roughly 2X the 
AD-155B. But the 155B gets you a little more power at 150W. I might start using 
the DRC-100B for new stuff since it's smaller and natively DIN rail mountable 
unlike the AD-155.

If you want fancy stuff like alarm contacts and temperature compensation, the 
Traco BCMU360 at about $170 + a Mean Well SDR240-24 or -48 isn't all that 
expensive. The BCMU is jumper selectable between 24 and 48VDC which is nice. 
Regulated output. Some folks don't like that it does the internal DC-DC 
conversion. Yes, it takes a 12VDC battery and converts to the selected output. 
I have up to 40AH on a few. The charging current is limited to 1A.

If you want big boy stuff, buy a rectifier shelf for 500W, 1kW, 2kW, whatever, 
and 100+ Ah of batteries. You can get ICT's new 1U shelf in +12, +24, +48 and 
-48.


On 3/20/2017 12:24 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:

  Qualifying info:  If you don't want/need any features like temperature 
compensation or low voltage disconnect, then all you need is a power supply 
that can be adjusted to your float voltage, then you wire the batteries and 
load in parallel.

  ------ Original Message ------
  From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: 3/20/2017 1:20:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC Power Site

    You don’t need two power supplies.  Just pick the  power supply that has 
enough current to both power the radios and supply a healthy recharge current 
right after a power outage to the radios.  
    From: Darin Steffl 
    Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 11:11 AM
    To: [email protected] ; [email protected] 
    Subject: [AFMUG] DC Power Site

    Hello all, 

    We're looking to build our first DC power site for small MicroPops and I 
see two options after reviewing the WISPA archives.

    The first option would be the the SDR-240-24 and DR-UPS40 with Two 12v 
batteries powering a Netonix DC switch.


    The second option we were looking at is just doing the AD-155A with one 12v 
battery but I see the charging current is only 0.5 amps and voltage is only 
13.3V which is not an optimal float voltage.


    My question is, to keep cost down, would we be OK going the AD-155A route 
with the slightly lower float voltage with a 35ah battery? We're ok with the 
battery taking longer to charge but I'm just most worried if the 13.3V will 
wreck the battery or not.


    Thanks all


    -- 

    Darin Steffl 
    Minnesota WiFi
    www.mnwifi.com
    507-634-WiFi
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