No water is used with these. It uses a tapered dry compaction bit instead
of cutting a hole like the normal HDD rigs do.

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

> But you have to have water, right?
>
> *From:* Gerard Dupont III
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:22 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow
>
> We use the hell out of the roto witch on our 410sx to cross under
> sidewalks, driveways, and county roads. It doesn't need as large of an
> entry/exit pit as a mole does. It doesn't require us to bring an air
> compressor either.
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yes, if you get them aimed when you are starting them they do a pretty
>> good job.
>> Easy to transport, setup and use.  No mess compared to boring.
>>
>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:54 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow
>>
>> I assume you don't mean the type of missile you launch at your enemies.
>>
>> I googled for "underground cable missile" and I'm directed to an article
>> about some kind of pneumatic hammer/boring thing.  Is that the correct
>> device?
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: 3/22/2017 10:50:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow
>>
>>
>> I think a missile is more useful than the small drill attachments.
>>
>> *From:* Chris Fabien
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:47 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow
>>
>> We have an older maxi sneaker and pretty happy with it. They are somewhat
>> tippy as Chuck stated but if you get the dual tires they help a lot. Ours
>> has been rolled down into a ditch once with no damage. Any of these
>> machines will tip if you do something stupid.
>>
>> The LM42 I see used a lot by drop guys around here, it's also an
>> articulated machine so quite maneuverable as is the Maxi Sneaker. We can
>> plow a drop in through moderately heavy woods and usually can find a way to
>> fit through the trees. The 410SX I don't think is as manuverable as the
>> articulated machines.
>>
>> I would recommend getting one with the trencher attachment and the
>> drill/bore attachment. We use both fairly regularly. Having a
>> digger/excavator is handy but I'm not sure I'd want one on my customer drop
>> machine. I would recommend a separate mini excavator if you need one that
>> much.
>>
>> That maxi you sent the pic of has been repainted so you can't see what
>> model, but the control levers are the newer style. I'm not sure how new
>> exactly but ours are early 80s machines and they have the older control
>> lever style.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Jason McKemie <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm trying to decide what make/model of plow to get.  The options, as I
>>> see them, are the Vermeer LM42, Ditch Witch 410SX, or Case Maxi Sneaker.
>>> I'll be using this for customer drops as well as some main-runs.
>>>
>>> I like the mini excavator attachment for the LM42, although I don't know
>>> how limiting this will be for the machine if I'm also using it for customer
>>> drops.  The drill attachment for the 410SX also seems like it could be
>>> useful.
>>>
>>> Anyone have experience with these machines?  Recommendations?
>>>
>>> Also, does anyone know what model of Case Maxi Sneaker this is?
>>> http://i.imgur.com/APCL4TK.jpg
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> -Jason
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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