I don’t think I have ever seen this.  

From: Chris Fabien 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow

Chuck you might be thinking of a different process. The compaction boring setup 
is just a small high-torque hydraulic drive on the plow that allows you to 
attach a short drill string. 10ft sections of solid steel shaft about 3/4" 
diameter with a compaction auger head on the end. You just make a short trench 
on one side, lay the bit in the trench and drill it through the ground by 
driving the machine forward. With good aim and a little luck you usually end up 
in a pretty good spot on the other side. Very fast and really no extra mess or 
equipment involved. Much less trouble than hauling out a huge compressor 
trailer.  

Chris 


On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  Yes, if you get them aimed when you are starting them they do a pretty good 
job.
  Easy to transport, setup and use.  No mess compared to boring.  

  From: Adam Moffett 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:54 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow

  I assume you don't mean the type of missile you launch at your enemies.

  I googled for "underground cable missile" and I'm directed to an article 
about some kind of pneumatic hammer/boring thing.  Is that the correct device?


  ------ Original Message ------
  From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: 3/22/2017 10:50:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow

    I think a missile is more useful than the small drill attachments.  

    From: Chris Fabien 
    Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:47 AM
    To: af@afmug.com 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow

    We have an older maxi sneaker and pretty happy with it. They are somewhat 
tippy as Chuck stated but if you get the dual tires they help a lot. Ours has 
been rolled down into a ditch once with no damage. Any of these machines will 
tip if you do something stupid. 

    The LM42 I see used a lot by drop guys around here, it's also an 
articulated machine so quite maneuverable as is the Maxi Sneaker. We can plow a 
drop in through moderately heavy woods and usually can find a way to fit 
through the trees. The 410SX I don't think is as manuverable as the articulated 
machines. 

    I would recommend getting one with the trencher attachment and the 
drill/bore attachment. We use both fairly regularly. Having a digger/excavator 
is handy but I'm not sure I'd want one on my customer drop machine. I would 
recommend a separate mini excavator if you need one that much.  

    That maxi you sent the pic of has been repainted so you can't see what 
model, but the control levers are the newer style. I'm not sure how new exactly 
but ours are early 80s machines and they have the older control lever style. 

    On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Jason McKemie 
<j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

      I'm trying to decide what make/model of plow to get.  The options, as I 
see them, are the Vermeer LM42, Ditch Witch 410SX, or Case Maxi Sneaker.  I'll 
be using this for customer drops as well as some main-runs. 

      I like the mini excavator attachment for the LM42, although I don't know 
how limiting this will be for the machine if I'm also using it for customer 
drops.  The drill attachment for the 410SX also seems like it could be useful.  

      Anyone have experience with these machines?  Recommendations?

      Also, does anyone know what model of Case Maxi Sneaker this is?
      http://i.imgur.com/APCL4TK.jpg


      Thanks.

      -Jason



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