Sometime you say something that still catches me off guard. Thanks for that!

 

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 6:34 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Semi OT: Selling web browsing history

 

So a few minutes ago I was caught on AppleMaps cameras on top of  van with GPS 
and other antennas.  They had six cameras on top of van...Nice looking 
ones....Do I get to claim royalties if my image is used on their maps? Or will 
they filter my finger out? 

 

On Mar 29, 2017 5:24 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

Yeah, it was never intended to cover us.  It really was intended to keep the 
big boys from blocking competing services.  Like Comcast blocking Netflix.  
Network neutrality was the common name of the rules.  Those same rules said we 
could not throttle or use something like procera to traffic shape.  But there 
was a loop hole to allow for network congestion management.

 

In any event it is history.  I never noticed the whole selling data aspect of 
that reg.  Just the throttling portion.  So I guess there was some stuff that 
prevented selling... but now it is gone?  Meh.

 

Google sells everything they get.  Always have, always will.  

Use adblockers and incognito mode etc if you want to attempt.  Or a proxy if 
you are really serious.  

 

Meh... meh

 

From: Adam Moffett 

Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 5:05 PM

To: Animal Farm 

Subject: [AFMUG] Semi OT: Selling web browsing history

 

Has anyone here been offered money for data on clients web browsing or other 
online activity?  Have you ever sought and found a company that would buy it?  
Is there a known case of an ISP doing this?  I'm betting all 3 are "no". 

 

A couple of friends are going nuts on Facebook about the reversal of a law that 
would prohibit ISP's from selling or sharing various types of data.  The law 
was signed under the previous administration, but never took effect.  Until now 
I'd not even heard of it.

 

I singled out the most vehement one and told him to calm down.  I told him of 
all the types of data we'd be prohibited from sharing (Medical, financial, 
social security etc) we don't actually have most of it to begin with.  Of all 
the cited things we're allegedly "allowed" to share/sell, the only thing I 
conceivably could produce would be a web browsing history.  Ok, so if I wanted 
to sell that, who's buying?  I argue that you should be more worried about 
Google and Facebook....who really do have access to a crapload of your data.  
And what is so secret in your browser history anyway?

 

One person brought up a case of a Verizon Wireless "Super Cookie" (X-UIDH 
header inserted into HTTP requests).  A case where incidentally the FCC told 
them people needed an opt-out option and fined them $1.3mil for not having 
it.......without any additional rules.  And the so-called super cookie only 
allowed web services to uniquely identify the device and key their own data 
around it....Verizon wasn't "sharing" anything.

 

Ultimately I don't care whether there's such a rule or not.  It seems 
irrelevant.  It's like a rule telling me not to share my space shuttle with 
anyone.  I'm like, "Sure, no problem."

 

If there's a reason I should be excited/alarmed, someone please educate me.

 

-Adam

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