If I can answer "why" a bit further: I have seen a number of "IOT"
(internet of things) type devices where the manufacturer, frequently a
Taiwanese or mainland China based company, decided to implement unencrypted
communications between the IOT device and their backend servers. Cheap
ethernet enabled webcams, doorbells, thermostats, etc.

Frequently it's a company with an app very similar to what's on the front
page of your non-https website, and immediately makes me suspicious.

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Harold Bledsoe <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I'm not security expert by any means but why do we need to encrypt our
> marketing website.  For example we don't force https on ignitenet.com but
> then it doesn't really do much.  The cloud controller on the other hand is
> encrypted and also intrusion tested.
>
> It's easy to force https I suppose.  I'd just like to understand why.
>
> -Hal
>
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 11:29 AM Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Not really, in my opinion, if you're selling a security related product
>> and can't be bothered to have https on your marketing page...  It makes me
>> wonder if you're doing proper TLS1.2 between your iphone/android app and
>> your cloud based security product's hosted back end.
>>
>> It says maybe your IP/Ethernet enabled security product maybe wasn't
>> designed by a company with the highest level of clue?
>>
>> https://letsencrypt.org/stats/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 8:28 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> That seems like an arbitrary and silly stick to measure against.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *[email protected]
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 11, 2017 10:27:07 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a few good beta testers
>>
>> If you're advertising anything for security and don't have an
>> https-enabled website (LetsEncrypt is free), it's hard to take seriously.
>> Even if it's just marketing material.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Harold Bledsoe <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> We have a new integration launching soon on the IgniteNet platform that
>> is a home/business cloud video surveillance solution.  It essentially lets
>> you as an operator offer a Nest-like video solution to your customers so
>> you can get paid for what folks are going to do anyways over your network.
>>
>> We are looking for a handful of early adopters who would be interested to
>> roll out something like this to beta test, give feedback, etc.  It would be
>> great if you can hit me offlist if you want to try it out!
>>
>> http://na.smc.com/
>>
>> Highlights are here.  :-)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Hal
>>
>>
>>

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