There's a bit more to it than that. )
From: Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig
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{}#yiv6023612781 Passive optical muxing is just a cascade of splitters with the
3dB per split. So 8:1 passive mux is 2*2*2 so 9 dB theoretically, 11 or so in
real life. From: Paul McCall Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 4:31 PMTo:
[email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig Does
using a mux require a “better” optical budget? From: Af
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 6:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig Not really. A mux is
a mux. Just pay attention to insertion loss numbers to make sure you still have
the optical budget you need.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
From: "Paul McCall" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 5:29:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig Is running an 8
channel mux any more reliable than a 40 channel mux on a link of that distance?
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 6:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig Cheaper to use a mux
now than to figure out how to transition 10G of traffic elsewhere later when
you need to take the link down to put a mux in? :-p
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
From: "Paul McCall" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 5:20:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig I didn’t think of that
but yes that makes sense From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Cassidy B. Larson
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 2:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig Not that you wont
need them, but maybe someone else would and you can sell a channel to them?
On Apr 14, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Paul McCall <[email protected]> wrote: Wow,
I can’t imagine needing that many channels of 10G anytime in the near future.
But, I guess ya never know From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 1:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig They do have
smaller ones, but the cost of the mux isn't that much. Our 18 channel ones are
about $1500 for the pair, IIRC.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
From: "Paul McCall" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 11:16:21 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig This looks like it
supports 40 channels, I really just need one (for now), but if that is part of
the HW config needed, 8 channel would be more than sufficient. Paul
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 8:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig Use this
tool.... to help you understand and design LH fiber solutions.
http://www.fs.com/support/dwdm-edfa-amplifier-for-long-haul-applications-100
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From: "Paul McCall" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 2:45:54 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Backhauling fiber 80 miles at 10Gig
What equipment can we use (cost efficient) to light up 80 miles of dark
fiber at 10gbit?
Paul, PDMNet
