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On April 23, 2017 6:54:48 PM CDT, "Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]" 
<j...@brazoswifi.com> wrote:
>I am in the exact same boat. New guy is slow as cold molasses.
>
>My installs are normally 2 hours. Maybe 3.
>His are 4 or 5.  So his days are 10 hours (yay overtime).
>
>When we work together, it seems that he just has his head up his butt
>and doesn't realize what step comes next.
>
>Good luck!
>
>Jim
>
>Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>-------- Original message --------
>From: Brandon Yuchasz <li...@gogebicrange.net>
>Date: 4/23/17 6:37 PM (GMT-06:00)
>To: af@afmug.com
>Subject: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.
>
>I was going to type a long PC type post about this (which I did anyway
>sorry) . But instead I am going to just ask how you guys go about
>trying to teach / train a new installer to work faster?
>
>We have a guy right now that was hired to be an installer with other
>duties as assigned. He is good at the other duties and has a good
>understanding of networking, computers and even RF. The problem is that
>he is very slow on installs and the primary job he was hired to do.
>
>I spent quite a bit of time with him last week trying to figure out
>where the speed issues were coming from. So I took him on site surveys
>ahead of time with me and we laid out the entire installs during the
>survey. Install here, wire down here, across here in through wall here
>and terminate. You could see the tower from these sites so hanging and
>tuning the radio was a breeze.
>
>I sent him out on two installs the day after that. First one I
>considered a hard install. The second one easy.  They took him over  10
>hours not counting drive time.
>
>I spent the next morning doing site checks on them with the customers
>permission. Both customers were happy with him and his install and not
>a single thing on the install was done incorrectly I took another
>installer with me and asked him to run the time frame in his head. He
>came up to 3 hours for each install. So had I but we are both
>experienced.
>
>So I talked really briefly with the new guy about getting faster and
>then took him to an install I had surveyed myself. Ran him through the
>entire install. Radio here, wire down here….. in and terminate. Install
>router. I left the more experienced guy with him to answer questions
>but told him to not physically help and explained to the new guy that
>if he had questions to ask because the other guy is there to help him
>figure out a faster process and  would be talking with me after the
>install about ways to speed up the process so we can help him. I should
>mention the experienced guy is a supervisor so no hard feelings should
>be had here. I left him at 9:00
>
>I was thinking that maybe I was being unrealistic in my time frames on
>installs since normally I have a helper on my installs and we knock out
>three to four a day. I felt like I got my installs done in 3 hours max
>when I was alone but never really timed them. So when I left the new
>guy I drove a half hour to what I considered a hard install and did it
>alone. Was done at 12:30 and driving back to check on the new guy. 
>When I got there he was just about done with the install but the truck
>was spread around the driveway ( not throwing stones I have been known
>to do this). So he was going past hour 4 at this point with paperwork
>and packing the truck he was going to be at 5 for sure.  I stepped in
>did the paperwork and quietly asked the other guy to pack up the truck
>some.  This was done for selfish reasons ( its Friday and I have a
>family) and also because we had a  between 1 and 3 to hit for the final
>install of the day.
>
>Grabbed subway. Scoffed it down. I bought and we headed to the last
>job.
>
>I had the supervisor guy in my truck and we have worked together a lot
>100s of installs together. So on the way to the install which he had
>never seen I prep him on it. Big ladder ( 32”) up on the gable on the
>back of the house.  Take the little giant around to the deck so I can
>access the roof.  And it’s a tripod install. So when we pull into the
>drive I point to the back of the house “that’s the back” he says okay
>and I go to ring the doorbell and say hello.  He has the new guy with
>him so he told him to help with the ladder and then instructed him to
>start an rj45 on a wire. When I walked out the ladder was up and the
>supervisor was at the top screwing down the tripod. I grabbed the mast,
>mounted the antenna and put the wireless unit on it to tune and
>scurried up the small ladder and up the roof. Ill make this short. We
>hung the gear and tuned and marked the tripod and I went down and he
>had just finished the RJ45.  In his defense he had  put one on a 3 foot
>scrap piece that he had confused with the rest of the wire in the box( 
>I don’t know) so this was his second end. Anyway we just ran the job
>and he stayed out of the way. This was a hard roof, tall and not LOS
>and we were done in the truck heading home in just under two hours. But
>that was two guys and we ran.
>
>Ok so this is getting long sorry about that but I just am at a loss
>with this guy. I did realize on that last job I run on job sites. I
>always run to the truck back from the truck and I think ahead. This guy
>defiantly does not run and nothing is done with any sense of urgency.
>He is certainly smart and I hate to let him go because he has other
>values but I don’t know what I can do to help him. He was hired to take
>the load off of me and I realize at the beginning new guys are work but
>its been over two months now he just recently took on jobs alone and he
>is not taking the load off. He is adding to it.
>
>Thoughts?
>
>Is to wrong to say, your slow I don’t know why but I am going to fire
>you if you don’t get fast. I wish I could tell you how to get fast but
>Its lots of little things. Start with running everywhere you go and see
>if that helps?
>
>Seriously…. I  do want to know from those of you that have hired lots
>of guys what are your thoughts? Should I not be running one man crews
>with the expectation of two installs in an 8 hour day with an hour of
>drive time in there?
>
>Thanks,
>Brandon

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