I think the hold is much more resistant to explosion.  You never know where 
your where your bag will be, it will be surrounded by other bags that will 
absorb the explosion etc.  In the cabin you can place the device against the 
wall and pretty much ensure a hole in the aircraft.  

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 10:15 AM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

Yes, anything larger than a cellphone. 

Let's just suppose that there was a device that had been modified to turn it 
into an explosive device.   Does it really matter if it is in the cabin or in 
the hold?   

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

  I am guessing it is a volumetric thing.  Laptop batts are big enough to do 
some damage if they really are an explosive.  Hard to tell the difference with 
an X ray machine if you do it right.  

  Your cell phone likely has a similar or greater amount of processing power 
and communications ability.  It has to be volumetric based.  

  Are they blocking kindle/ipad/fire type devices?

  From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 10:01 AM
  To: af 
  Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

  We've been remarkably politics free, and I want to keep it that way.  I know 
the answer to what I'm about to ask could devolve toward that direction.  I'd 
prefer we don't go down that path.

  What I'm curious about is this:

  The US is implementing various bans on electronics larger than a cell phone 
being carried onboard the aircraft into the cabin.  Today it's limited to a few 
countries, but it sounds like it's going to get expanded greatly.  Note that 
this doesn't mean you can't take say a laptop with you, but instead that it has 
to be checked so it's in the luggage hold instead of accessible to you through 
the flight.

  So the question I have is what threat this is supposed to eliminate?  The 
obvious concern is some sort of explosive making it's way into the passenger 
cabin, but a wireless trigger for an explosive device is so simple to rig 
nowadays that I don't think the physical separation of a potential terrorist 
from their explosive is going to make a bit of difference. 

  I can think of several other potential threats, but with the way that they're 
implementing this ban, I sure can't see how any of them are affected.   
Especially since you can apparently carry your larger electronics all of the 
way to the gate, then have them gate check them to be returned to you airside 
at your destination.

  Does anyone have any ideas what threat they might be trying to eliminate?   
Personally, I'm far more concerned about the risk of a lithium battery fire in 
the cargo hold....

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        Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.

        Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
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      Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.

      Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
      [email protected] | http://www.packetflux.com

         


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