How you think some 900MHz and 11GHz products work? Convertors On May 9, 2017 3:58 PM, "Colin Stanners" <cstann...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Up-down converters tend to suck for many reasons, adding the fact that > many modern factors would increase a modern up-down converter's cost over > the old units ( need two polarizations, high-end amplifiers due to OFDM > PAPR, tight tx/rx cycles etc). In the end a cheap 5ghz radio and an 60ghz > UDC would cost more than a midrange 60ghz radio and still lack features. > > On May 9, 2017 4:07 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Wonder who will be first to make a 5Ghz to 60GHz UDC? Is it even legal? > > Jaime Solorza > Wireless Systems Architect > 915-861-1390 <(915)%20861-1390> > > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:34 PM, Eric Muehleisen <ericm...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Is the 5ghz backup radio enabled and transmitting all the time or does it >> only come on during fade events. I would hate to chew up valuable 5ghz >> spectrum to be used only 00.01% of the time. >> >> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Harold Bledsoe <hbledso...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> High level, think fiber to the pole and wireless last few hundred >>> meters. Basically everything is street level in that case. >>> >>> You can do fixed wireless off of 60GHz and maybe 5GHz. Wi-Fi then for >>> best effort service. >>> >>> One thing to keep in mind is that in a lot of cities, half the folks >>> don't have broadband at home. Wi-Fi service could be the economical >>> solution. :-) >>> >>> 60GHz is for achieving gigabit levels of service. >>> >>> Hal >>> >>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 11:54 AM Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> What is this angie thing… can’t wrap my head around it yet >>>> >>>> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Harold Bledsoe < >>>> hbledso...@gmail.com> >>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>>> Date: Tuesday, May 9, 2017 at 8:00 AM >>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It? >>>> Hey Sterling, >>>> >>>> No worries, we will have 15 CPE per sector support in mid June >>>> (software update). The next step will be 32 (another software update). >>>> :-) >>>> >>>> -Hal >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Gino A. Villarini* >>>> President >>>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 4:29 PM Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't have a problem with their range or capacity. >>>>> >>>>> What I do have an issue with current specs is that it is one AP to 8 >>>>> clients. >>>>> >>>>> I need this to be more in the 'normal' range of an AP to 15-30 clients >>>>> or more. >>>>> >>>>> Given the higher bandwidth, it would be a lot easier to spread a >>>>> 1000Mbps connection around to 30-100 clients than the 5GHz 100Mbps to the >>>>> same client number. >>>>> >>>>> Law of averages. >>>>> >>>>> Again, though, I can see that being a CPU/processor limited thing in >>>>> current radio designs for lower frequencies. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 2:21 PM >>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 60Ghz PtMP, Why Doesn't Everyone Have It? >>>>> >>>>> The top reasons that come to mind right away are: >>>>> >>>>> (1) Range. How close can you tolerate? It's not going to go very far >>>>> in a PMP environment. Maybe a few hundred yards. If there are trees, >>>>> forget >>>>> about it. >>>>> >>>>> (2) Modulation. Don't expect something in that frequency to be doing >>>>> higher level modulations. Because you can run ginormous channels, maybe >>>>> not >>>>> a big deal, but I wouldn't count on it. >>>>> >>>>> (3) Costs. Getting things to run at that frequency would probably >>>>> require higher end components. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> bp >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>> >>>>> On 5/8/2017 1:05 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: >>>>> > What am I missing here? >>>>> > >>>>> > Can't Cambium and UBNT and others simply overlay the same radio >>>>> architecture/software they have developed over a decade, on top of a 60GHz >>>>> radio instead of 5Ghz? >>>>> > >>>>> > Is there some fundamental problem with using the same PHY later >>>>> protocols on 60GHz vs 5GHz? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>> >>> Harold Bledsoe >>> >> >> > >
