That is the exact behaviour we saw.

> On 11 May 2017, at 21:59, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> To be 100% clear....
> 
> The negative sides (-) are common
> 
> The positive sides (+) are independent.
> 
> So we should be able to put different (+) voltages on PWR1 and PWR2, and we 
> should not expect them to back feed each other.
> 
> The behavior we were seeing was voltage from PWR2 was back-feeding through 
> PWR1 and providing power to equipment that was on PWR1, even though the 
> breaker to PWR1 was turned off.
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> 
> On 5/10/2017 4:27 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>> On the base unit, the - side of both DC inputs are tied together.  It is 
>> designed that way, since it was designed to be powered from two positive 
>> sources.   
>> 
>> If you are connecting two -48VDC busses to the base unit by connecting 
>> 'common or return' to the + input on each, and the -48VDC bus to the - input 
>> on each, the base unit will internally connect both of those buses.  As I 
>> described, this is by design because the unit was designed for + voltages, 
>> not negative ones.
>> 
>> The next iteration of the base unit will handle this much more gracefully.   
>> I am not yet sure about whether the device will simply just support either 
>> +48VDC or -48VDC, or if you'll have to select it in some way (at ordering, 
>> with a jumper, etc....)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 10, 2017 7:34 AM, "Sorin Esanu" <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Yes, neg48 plant.
>>  I’ll send the requested info.
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10 May 2017, at 16:32, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If we're still selling the same version of a product,  we warranty it.  We 
>>> regularly replace things which are far older.  I like to see the in field 
>>> failures so I can roll the lessons learned into the next generation of 
>>> products.
>>> 
>>> Just send an email info [email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> with the serial (mac address) and your 
>>> address we'll send a ups label to ship it back to us.  Please include a 
>>> note as to what is wrong so I can remember when I look at it. 
>>> 
>>> Oh,  one thing I just noticed. ..  is this a positive ground plant by 
>>> chance?  (I.E. -48)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 10, 2017 7:16 AM, "Sorin Esanu" <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> We’re monitoring A and B of our DC power plant. It is wired directly into 
>>> the GMT fuses panel, A and B sides. 
>>> This particular unit was installed over 1 year ago, close to 2 years. If 
>>> your offer is still valid, let me know the procedure.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>>> On 10 May 2017, at 10:32, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Can you let me know more about your setup?
>>>> 
>>>> Is this the unit you bought in November?  (In case this is something which 
>>>> has gone weird with a batch, and somehow not caught by our test 
>>>> procedures).
>>>> 
>>>> If you've got a defective one, we'll swap it, paying shipping both ways.
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:49 PM, Sorin Esanu <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> We’ve experienced this exact same behaviour last week. It seems like PWR1 
>>>> and PWR2 are acting like one now.
>>>> We are in process of replacing all the SiteMonitor II devices with Tycon 
>>>> TPDIN-Monitor-WEB2, which can monitor more things and it’s a lot smarter.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> > On 10 May 2017, at 01:31, Bill Prince <[email protected] 
>>>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I think I have a SiteMonitor II with a problem, as I always thought that 
>>>> > the two power sensors (PWR1 and PWR2) were independent of each other, 
>>>> > and should have a pretty high impedance between then.
>>>> >
>>>> > We set  up a new solar site, and put our load on PWR1 and the batteries 
>>>> > on PWR2. As soon as we hook up either one of the sense wires, the 
>>>> > breaker to the batteries (30 amp) pops, and all the lights go out.
>>>> >
>>>> > We can monitor one voltage on PWR1, or the same or different voltage on 
>>>> > PWR2. However, if both are connected we blow the 30 amp breaker to the 
>>>> > batteries.
>>>> >
>>>> > We've checked the polarity (both voltages are negative ground), and they 
>>>> > are both "about" the same voltage (although we have monitored radically 
>>>> > different voltage in the past (like 12V on one and 48V on the other). 
>>>> > This is a 48VDC system, so we are seeing ~~ 56V on both right now,
>>>> >
>>>> > BTW, when we hook up just one of the sensors and leave the other open, 
>>>> > we see ~~ 43 volts between PWR1 and PWR2. I haven't checked other 
>>>> > SiteMonitors, but this doesn't seem right to me.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > --
>>>> > bp
>>>> > part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
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