---------------------- So theres no mail component like sendmail Spf is a dns entry, i use rhem for relays alot Open relays are great with ACLs, removes the authentiaction failure without notification point of failure --------------------------
I can sit here and say ... Yes you are correct in all of the above.. or I can be technically anal and say.... sendmail is a full fledged mail server application, it would be degrading and wrong to call it a 'component'. SPF is a dns entry, I use them for relays a lot.....<-----SPF is a mechanism which allows the sender to define a valid mail sending source to the receiving mail server.. how u are using it is a subset of the mechanism, but you are forgetting that the receiving mail server has a great amount of 'configuration setting leeway' as to how to use the information provided in the SPF record. Open relays are great with ACLs ,>>>>> Ok >>>removes the authentiaction failure without notification point of failure >>>>>>> ????? not sure what you are saying.. but hopefully you realize that >>>'authentication' is only used for mail 'relay' function.... and not needed >>>for 'receiving mail' .... :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] > From: "Steve Jones" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 12:24:03 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] sending mail from mikrotik without smtp server > So theres no mail component like sendmail > Spf is a dns entry, i use rhem for relays alot > Open relays are great with ACLs, removes the authentiaction failure without > notification point of failure > On May 13, 2017 8:54 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" < [email protected] > wrote: >> Short answer to your question is no.. >> Long answer..... MT has a small mail sender "client" portion of software, >> i.e. >> similar to the mail sender client that is on your desktop computer >> The functionality you are asking for is a Mail Server (Receiver) side >> functionality. The SPF is not a sender side control.. but a receiver side >> validation of an authorized sender. >> SFP record vs going to spam, are two different functions, not related, but >> used >> together to control spam. >> if you setup the MT to send mail to the end mail server (i.e. the mail server >> that has the email mail box on it) then YOU DON"T NEED Authentication >> credentials. >> (Auth credentials are only needed for mail relay... not receiving mail) >> open mail relays are a bad thing..... (unless you have them firewall >> protected >> by IP address range, then the risk is reduced ). >> Regards >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>> From: "Steve Jones" < [email protected] > >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 7:39:52 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] sending mail from mikrotik without smtp server >>> I guess that wasnt all that clear, is mikrotik capable of acting as a mail >>> facility, like sendmail, the spf record allows its public facing ip to send >>> on >>> behalf of the domain without going to spam. Im never a fan of >>> credentialling in >>> devices when i can avoid it because a credential change inevitably results >>> in >>> stranded alerts. Inside our active directory domains i always set up an open >>> smtp relay with an acl to avoid credentials on devices that do mail alerts >>> or >>> printers that email >>> On May 12, 2017 3:23 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" < [email protected] > wrote: >>>> I think you are getting confused with some aspect of how the Mail gets sent >>>> (SMTP Process). >>>> in MT lingo... smtp server = it can be your mail server (the one that has >>>> the >>>> receiving email account) which can also be a 'Relay' server if it does not >>>> have >>>> the receiving email account and it is supposed to forward the mail to the >>>> end >>>> mail server in the chain. >>>> SPF records are used by the receiving mail server to determine validity of >>>> email >>>> vs spam etc... >>>> If you are asking about why you have to configure Authentication ? the >>>> answer is >>>> you don't ... if the mailserver listed in the smtp server is the final >>>> receiving mail server. >>>> Regards. >>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>>>> From: "Steve Jones" < [email protected] > >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:15:25 PM >>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] sending mail from mikrotik without smtp server >>>>> Is there a way to get the mikrotik to just send emails without having to >>>>> configure an smtp server/relay? I dont directly have issue with setting up >>>>> authentication to a mail relay, it just seems unneccessary if I have good >>>>> SPF
