we have replaced about 10 incandescent in the last year with ace cheapos
and Walmart cheapos, none failed yet. I have an outside light at my front
door that never lasts more than a month because the vibration, I just put
an led in in place of a rough service incandescent that only lasted a
couple weeks, hopefully since its all solid state it will handle the shock.
I got so fed up with cfl failures, terrible output and breaks I got pissed
a few ago and bought a boatload of incandescent and threw the cfl in the
trash where they belonged, I was paying more replacing cfls than I was
saving in utility bills.

nothing beats a 100watt bright white incandescent though. If there is one
out there that has similar output for under 10 bucks a bulb id be all about
checking it out. I like massive light on my central fixtures and dim
ambient in the sconce and lamps

the Walmart cheap 60 watt leds are like 97 cents, claim 18 years, ill be
happy if I get two out of them, Id go through 3 incandescent or 5 cfl in
that time anyway so its a wash in price and the combined wattage decline
puts it in the positive, beyond two years its like I'm getting paid

On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 10:42 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> There is an LED design that has the LEDS embedded in a very small rod that
> is covered by some kind of phosphor.  They look like long incandescent
> filaments.  The lumens per watt is the same as a regular LED and the price
> is about the same.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED_filament
>
> They have the best color temperature for warming up the room.  Very very
> similar to tungsten.  Nice in places where you don't want extremely bright
> bulbs and you want the slightly yellow of tungsten.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 9:38 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: LED Lifespan
>
> We've been replacing incandescent and CFL lights as they fail. We found
> that CFLs don't like being turned off/on a lot; it seems to increase
> their failure rate. We've been doing this for about 4 years, and so far,
> we have had zero LED failures. We like the LEDs because the color is
> more natural than any of the CFLs. I don't know how many LED lights we
> have, but well over half of our total lights are LED now.
>
> Last year we replaced the recessed fluorescent lights (4 X 40W = 160W
> total)  in our kitchen with 9 "Halo" LED lights (9 X 8W = 72W total).
> The LEDs produce far more light, and they are dimmable. In the evening
> when we're not working in the kitchen, the lights are turned down to
> maybe 25% of normal. In terms of energy usage we have to be less than
> 25% of what we used before, and the quality of the light is just many,
> many times better.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 5/27/2017 7:53 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
>
>> I've converted some things to A type LED Bulbs at my house, mainly for
>> the reduced heat output, but I'm not seeing anywhere near the lifespan
>> advertised.  I would say ~50% failure rate within 2 years. I'm betting the
>> actual LED's are fine, but the driver burns out.  Is this common with LED's
>> or am I just really unlucky?  We installed a bunch of 4' LED Shop lights,
>> granted they were all the same manufacturer, but we have about 75% failed
>> within 8 months.
>>
>
>

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