I am a big believer in vibratory plows.  

From: Chuck Hogg 
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 7:50 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pull blade vs chute blade

That's correct.  The wider the width, the more friction. 

We use a blade that can install a 3/4" conduit or cable size on the 410.

Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 6:13 PM, Jason McKemie 
<[email protected]> wrote:

  I assume there are different widths? For instance a wide enough chute to get 
a flat drop cable through vs 3/4" conduit - I would imagine this would affect 
the depth you were able to go?

  On Tuesday, May 30, 2017, Chris Fabien <[email protected]> wrote:

    That size machine, probably an 18" depth would be the max I would attempt 
with a chute blade. 

    On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Jason McKemie 
<[email protected]> wrote:

      What size chute blade are you able to use with the 410sx? 


      On Tuesday, May 30, 2017, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> wrote:

        I've done the chute method and the pull blade.  After many times of 
issues with the pull blade, we stuck with the chute.  A pull blade in my 
opinion is only good for short straight shots.  All the cable contractors 
around here are required to do chute. 

        We use chutes on all of our plows, from the smallest hand plow to the 
largest RT115 we have.  From 18" to 4'+ in the ground.

        Regards,
        Chuck

        On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:23 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

          I have only used vibratory plows with a chute, so not sure a serrated 
plow blade would be a great help.  Have not seen one.  

          From: Joe 
          Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:14 PM
          To: [email protected] 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pull blade vs chute blade

          Great question… there is a few key differences.



          With a chute, you can drop in multiple conduit… BIG advantage, 
sometimes we put in 2x 1.5” or 1.5” plus a ¾”.  One for fiber, one for power if 
a customer wants power at a driveway (gates, light, sensor)



          If you are required to put in a “caution tape”, must use a chute… 



          If you are going in a straight line, pulling is great.  Less HP 
needed.

                         Many or sharp curves… use a chute

                         Or plan for adding couplers



          If soil conditions are soft, chute works great.  No breakage or pipe 
stretching.

          If soil conditions are packed/hard… add more horsepower/traction for 
a chute



          Using a pull blade to run the path without product in hard ground on 
the first pass, then go back with the pull blade on the second pass and pull 
the product.



          If you have roots, the pull blade with serrated teeth do a great job. 
 I haven’t seen a serrated edge on a chute. 



          Friction is not your friend when pulling… 



          And size of the machine… when using a chute, you need more traction / 
weight / HP.





          From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
          Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:24 PM
          To: [email protected]
          Subject: [AFMUG] Pull blade vs chute blade



          Are there situations for which one is better than the other?  I know 
pulling limits your distance, I'm not sure otherwise.



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