Xbox One S looks to be ~105 watts at full load from the first few
websites.  I can see the laptop being 50 watts.

On a lot of vehicles all the 12v outlets are on one fuse, be aware of that.

If you only want say 300 watts why not get a 1000 watt inverter, fuse it,
and throw on a PriorityStart so you don't kill the battery?  Should be like
$400 total.


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On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 2:21 AM, Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I think the alternator is buried in my Toyota Sienna, so I’m not going to
> mess with it, or a second battery I guess.
>
>
>
> I’ll just live with the combined 100-120w restriction on all the outlets
> in my car combined.
>
>
>
> I suspect the alternate is bigger than norm just because of that allowance
> given to the two AC plugs and DC plugs.
>
>
>
> I might try and sneak in a 50W computer for serving videos. Or maybe an
> Xbox One S that I think runs around 50-60W.
>
>
>
> As long as the kids aren’t all charging their devices at the same time,
> lol!
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 11, 2017 11:28 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Road Trip Battery
>
>
>
> Alternator rating = rotor speed, not engine RPM. Crankshaft pulley to
> alternator pulley ratio is usually like 3:1. So 2k engine RPM = 6k
> alternator RPM = max power. Probably varies by model/mfg. Yeah, idle is
> usually gonna be a little bit less. A high-output alternator is the better
> choice. You can screw around with pulley ratios for more power at idle, but
> you run the risk of over-driving the alternator at higher engine RPM. IIRC,
> ~18-20k RPM is ungood for it.
>
> My '11 Silverado has a 145A alternator. Dual rectifiers. Maybe triple. I
> forget. Idle=600 RPM. Still produces at least 110A based on my clamp-on
> ammeter and a bad battery that always pulled about 90A. Probably bad cells.
> Made it 7 years. New battery pulled around 100A for 10 minutes or so to top
> it off. The typical commute of 15-30 minutes should be ample time to
> maintain a battery that's in decent shape/age. The law of averages, that's
> what the auto mfgs aim for. Most people don't need 180A at idle, just like
> most of our customers don't need 1Gbps, or 100Mbps, all the time.. or ever.
>
> On 7/11/2017 9:05 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
> My '04 Hyundai Accent has a 90 amp alternator.  ....though I never did
> figure out how many RPM's they assume when giving you that rating.  I read
> some conflicting facts on that.
>
>
>
> Anyway, I have 1000 watt inverter and I've had approx 600 watts on it
> while idling for several hours.  I can't prove whether the alternator kept
> up or the battery was slowly draining.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
>
> From: [email protected]
>
> To: "Animal Farm" <[email protected]>
>
> Sent: 7/11/2017 8:49:23 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Road Trip Battery
>
>
>
> If you install the isolation diodes, then yes.  But that only prevents a
> dead starter battery.  If you have 3-4 devices all using 50 watts, and you
> have a 50 amp alternator, you only have 600 watts total.  The air
> conditioner blower is going to take probably 200 watts, the onboard
> electronics perhaps 100 watts.  So maybe 300 excess.  I wouldn’t count on
> even that much.  I have seen aux connectors fused at 15 amps so that is 180
> watts.
>
>
>
> My dell has a 90 watt power supply.  So two of those running non stop?
>
>
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 11, 2017 6:32 PM
>
> *To:* Animal Farm
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Road Trip Battery
>
>
>
> Not at all...Pep Boys and others sell a simple to install dual battery
> inverter and heavy duty fuse system.  A good quality inverter would work
> well and no big thing to install.  I use this for wiring up inverters for
> vans and buses to a solenoid to start inverter when vehicle is started.
> Prevents draining battery..
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2017 6:14 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I've got a cross country family trip from Utah to New York coming up and I
> want to wire up a secondary battery to my Toyota Minivan.
>
> I know, maybe I'm crazy, but I want to be able to run all our electronics
> on the trip, including maybe a computer for serving up video (another
> topic).
>
> I want it on a secondary system so I get more power and don't kill the
> main car battery.
>
> From what I gather I would need a sealed battery to avoid fumes (mostly).
> I would need a some sort of control system so the battery can charge from
> the alternator, but not drain the main battery.
> I need high gage wire between the batteries/alternater along with fuse,
> and also between secondary battery and large inverter for AC power.
>
> Probably not possible to shove another battery under the hood of the
> mini-van, but I haven't checked.
>
> Is this a silly idea?
>
>
>

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