I might bend it a bit.  

Say is was perhaps a 5 mile 18 GHz link, and the Mimosa fancy “who is on the 
air”  tool shows nobody in this area on 18 GHz I don’t think I would feel too 

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 11:32 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval

Hey Steve, in my rebellious days, I went against The Man and tore the labels 
off my sofa and mattresses.    No black helicopters hovering over my house; 
well not quite true, the border is less than a mile from mu house, and we see 
them everyday, but not coming after me!! 

all kidding aside, its a Bozo NoNo to fire up without the approval.  Listen to 
the angel's voice today...

Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

  we have the radios and the expedited coordination is in process. Ill be gone 
for a week but want to knock it out as soon as possible. If nothing else ill 
just set the AZ/EL on them and wait to plug them in. 

  I was hoping there was a backdoor thats legal, but i can be patient

  On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:22 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

    It does not take that long to get a license.  

    The frequency coordinator can clear a pair in a day if there is a pair to 
be had.  

    Once they find you some freqs, if you are on a short time line, order the 
radios and antennas.

    I would risk firing them up and aiming them before you get the PCN 
clearance as the frequency coordinators are pretty danged good.  Low chance of 
harming someone else.  I would not leave them on for any longer than it takes 
to aim them.  

    The absolutely safe way of doing it is to give the rest of the world the 30 
days to respond to the PCN stuff.
    Then if no objections buy the radios and antennas.  
    Then file with the FCC.  
    Then install and aim and operate.  

    From: Steve Jones 
    Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 10:10 AM
    To: af@afmug.com 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval

    filed or approved?

    On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Hardy, Tim <tha...@comsearch.com> wrote:

      There is no authority to operate until the applications have been filed – 

      From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
      Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 11:59 AM
      To: af@afmug.com
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval

      Has the PCN passed with no objections? What does your coordinator say?

      Mike Hammett
      Intelligent Computing Solutions

      Midwest Internet Exchange

      The Brothers WISP


      From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
      To: af@afmug.com
      Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 10:46:37 AM
      Subject: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval

      Im pretty sure the answer is an absolute no, and I know I CAN do it 
without likely being caught.

      If we have the gear on hand and are just waiting on the FCC, I know we 
can physically install the radios, its just storage at height at that point, 
but can we turn it on long enough to do fine alignment?

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