wow, Chuck is the lenient parent and I am the strict one..   a distortion
in the time continuum must be the culprit.

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:35 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> I might bend it a bit.
>
> Say is was perhaps a 5 mile 18 GHz link, and the Mimosa fancy “who is on
> the air”  tool shows nobody in this area on 18 GHz I don’t think I would
> feel too guilty.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 8, 2017 11:32 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval
>
> Hey Steve, in my rebellious days, I went against The Man and tore the
> labels off my sofa and mattresses.    No black helicopters hovering over my
> house; well not quite true, the border is less than a mile from mu house,
> and we see them everyday, but not coming after me!!
>
> all kidding aside, its a Bozo NoNo to fire up without the approval.
> Listen to the angel's voice today...
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390 <(915)%20861-1390>
>
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> we have the radios and the expedited coordination is in process. Ill be
>> gone for a week but want to knock it out as soon as possible. If nothing
>> else ill just set the AZ/EL on them and wait to plug them in.
>>
>> I was hoping there was a backdoor thats legal, but i can be patient
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:22 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It does not take that long to get a license.
>>>
>>> The frequency coordinator can clear a pair in a day if there is a pair
>>> to be had.
>>>
>>> Once they find you some freqs, if you are on a short time line, order
>>> the radios and antennas.
>>>
>>> I would risk firing them up and aiming them before you get the PCN
>>> clearance as the frequency coordinators are pretty danged good.  Low chance
>>> of harming someone else.  I would not leave them on for any longer than it
>>> takes to aim them.
>>>
>>> The absolutely safe way of doing it is to give the rest of the world the
>>> 30 days to respond to the PCN stuff.
>>> Then if no objections buy the radios and antennas.
>>> Then file with the FCC.
>>> Then install and aim and operate.
>>>
>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 8, 2017 10:10 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval
>>>
>>> filed or approved?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Hardy, Tim <tha...@comsearch.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is no authority to operate until the applications have been filed
>>>> – period.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 08, 2017 11:59 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Has the PCN passed with no objections? What does your coordinator say?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 8, 2017 10:46:37 AM
>>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval
>>>>
>>>> Im pretty sure the answer is an absolute no, and I know I CAN do it
>>>> without likely being caught.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If we have the gear on hand and are just waiting on the FCC, I know we
>>>> can physically install the radios, its just storage at height at that
>>>> point, but can we turn it on long enough to do fine alignment?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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