I think you more or less had this with your swappable feed horns on the optics dish. A person could align it with 5ghz, then put their 18ghz feed in place.


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From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 8/8/2017 2:25:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval

I presume operation of the tester would cause some kind of infraction unless I could get a nationwide narrowband frequency for it. There are nationwide frequencies available in most if not all bands.

From:Jaime Solorza
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 12:05 PM
To:Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval

time for Chuck to design and make an 18GHz alignment tool like Teletronics had. A transmitter on one side connected to antenna and receiver at other side connected to antenna. Teletronics customed made some for me which I sold years ago in 2450 GHz and 5750MHz.


Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Hardy, Tim <tha...@comsearch.com> wrote:
Filed and only then if in a frequency and area where Conditional Authorization is allowed. There are some areas / bands that are designated quiet zones. Denver, DC, Santa Monica at 18 GHz, all bands around Green Bank, WV, etc. If you’re not in one of these areas and the stations are not within 56 kilometers of an international border you should be eligible for Conditional Authorization which will allow you to operate legally as soon as the applications have been filed and pending formal FCC license grant.



I would add to Chuck’s comments a word of caution. If your coordinator has to make changes to the initial coordination (reducing power, changing frequencies, etc.) this is strong indication that the proposal wasn’t properly engineered in the first place and the changes were likely the result of complaints of actual interference from other licensees and coordinators. Most PCNs today are expedited to 10-business days or so which is usually much less time than ordering and shipping of equipment.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 1:17 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval



we have the radios and the expedited coordination is in process. Ill be gone for a week but want to knock it out as soon as possible. If nothing else ill just set the AZ/EL on them and wait to plug them in.



I was hoping there was a backdoor thats legal, but i can be patient



On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:22 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

It does not take that long to get a license.



The frequency coordinator can clear a pair in a day if there is a pair to be had.



Once they find you some freqs, if you are on a short time line, order the radios and antennas.



I would risk firing them up and aiming them before you get the PCN clearance as the frequency coordinators are pretty danged good. Low chance of harming someone else. I would not leave them on for any longer than it takes to aim them.



The absolutely safe way of doing it is to give the rest of the world the 30 days to respond to the PCN stuff.

Then if no objections buy the radios and antennas.

Then file with the FCC.

Then install and aim and operate.



From: Steve Jones

Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 10:10 AM

To:af@afmug.com

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval



filed or approved?



On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Hardy, Tim <tha...@comsearch.com> wrote:

There is no authority to operate until the applications have been filed – period.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 11:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval



Has the PCN passed with no objections? What does your coordinator say?



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From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 10:46:37 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval

Im pretty sure the answer is an absolute no, and I know I CAN do it without likely being caught.



If we have the gear on hand and are just waiting on the FCC, I know we can physically install the radios, its just storage at height at that point, but can we turn it on long enough to do fine alignment?











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