Align it with the scope and then put in any frequency.  It was a pretty slick 
system.  

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 2:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval

I think you more or less had this with your swappable feed horns on the optics 
dish.  A person could align it with 5ghz, then put their 18ghz feed in place.


------ Original Message ------
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 8/8/2017 2:25:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval

  I presume operation of the tester would cause some kind of infraction unless 
I could get a nationwide narrowband frequency for it.  There are nationwide 
frequencies available in most if not all bands.  

  From: Jaime Solorza 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 12:05 PM
  To: Animal Farm 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval

  time for Chuck to design and make an 18GHz alignment tool like Teletronics 
had.   A transmitter on one side connected to antenna and receiver at other 
side connected to antenna.   Teletronics customed made some for me which I sold 
years ago in 2450 GHz and 5750MHz. 


  Jaime Solorza 
  Wireless Systems Architect
  915-861-1390

  On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Hardy, Tim <tha...@comsearch.com> wrote:

    Filed and only then if in a frequency and area where Conditional 
Authorization is allowed.  There are some areas / bands that are designated 
quiet zones.  Denver, DC, Santa Monica at 18 GHz, all bands around Green Bank, 
WV, etc.  If you’re not in one of these areas and the stations are not within 
56 kilometers of an international border you should be eligible for Conditional 
Authorization which will allow you to operate legally as soon as the 
applications have been filed and pending formal FCC license grant.



    I would add to Chuck’s comments a word of caution.  If your coordinator has 
to make changes to the initial coordination (reducing power, changing 
frequencies, etc.) this is strong indication that the proposal wasn’t properly 
engineered in the first place and the changes were likely the result of 
complaints of actual interference from other licensees and coordinators.  Most 
PCNs today are expedited to 10-business days or so which is usually much less 
time than ordering and shipping of equipment. 



    From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
    Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 1:17 PM
    To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval



    we have the radios and the expedited coordination is in process. Ill be 
gone for a week but want to knock it out as soon as possible. If nothing else 
ill just set the AZ/EL on them and wait to plug them in.



    I was hoping there was a backdoor thats legal, but i can be patient



    On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:22 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

      It does not take that long to get a license.  



      The frequency coordinator can clear a pair in a day if there is a pair to 
be had.  



      Once they find you some freqs, if you are on a short time line, order the 
radios and antennas.



      I would risk firing them up and aiming them before you get the PCN 
clearance as the frequency coordinators are pretty danged good.  Low chance of 
harming someone else.  I would not leave them on for any longer than it takes 
to aim them.  



      The absolutely safe way of doing it is to give the rest of the world the 
30 days to respond to the PCN stuff.

      Then if no objections buy the radios and antennas.  

      Then file with the FCC.  

      Then install and aim and operate.  



      From: Steve Jones 

      Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 10:10 AM

      To: af@afmug.com 

      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval



      filed or approved?



      On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Hardy, Tim <tha...@comsearch.com> wrote:

        There is no authority to operate until the applications have been filed 
– period.



        From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
        Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 11:59 AM
        To: af@afmug.com
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval



        Has the PCN passed with no objections? What does your coordinator say?



        -----
        Mike Hammett
        Intelligent Computing Solutions

        Midwest Internet Exchange

        The Brothers WISP






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        From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
        To: af@afmug.com
        Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 10:46:37 AM
        Subject: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval

        Im pretty sure the answer is an absolute no, and I know I CAN do it 
without likely being caught.



        If we have the gear on hand and are just waiting on the FCC, I know we 
can physically install the radios, its just storage at height at that point, 
but can we turn it on long enough to do fine alignment?











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