Use 10GHz radar detector parts... HAM guys have done 300 mile links with
10GHz over water.
Jaime Solorza

On Aug 8, 2017 3:15 PM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I loved the idea of the scope....but the thing about the scope is if it
> was close enough to see the other end with a scope, then I didn't need any
> tool to align it.
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 8/8/2017 4:57:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval
>
> Align it with the scope and then put in any frequency.  It was a pretty
> slick system.
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 8, 2017 2:49 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval
>
> I think you more or less had this with your swappable feed horns on the
> optics dish.  A person could align it with 5ghz, then put their 18ghz feed
> in place.
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 8/8/2017 2:25:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval
>
>
> I presume operation of the tester would cause some kind of infraction
> unless I could get a nationwide narrowband frequency for it.  There are
> nationwide frequencies available in most if not all bands.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 8, 2017 12:05 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval
>
> time for Chuck to design and make an 18GHz alignment tool like Teletronics
> had.   A transmitter on one side connected to antenna and receiver at other
> side connected to antenna.   Teletronics customed made some for me which I
> sold years ago in 2450 GHz and 5750MHz.
>
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390 <(915)%20861-1390>
>
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Hardy, Tim <tha...@comsearch.com> wrote:
>
>> Filed and only then if in a frequency and area where Conditional
>> Authorization is allowed.  There are some areas / bands that are designated
>> quiet zones.  Denver, DC, Santa Monica at 18 GHz, all bands around Green
>> Bank, WV, etc.  If you’re not in one of these areas and the stations are
>> not within 56 kilometers of an international border you should be eligible
>> for Conditional Authorization which will allow you to operate legally as
>> soon as the applications have been filed and pending formal FCC license
>> grant.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would add to Chuck’s comments a word of caution.  If your coordinator
>> has to make changes to the initial coordination (reducing power, changing
>> frequencies, etc.) this is strong indication that the proposal wasn’t
>> properly engineered in the first place and the changes were likely the
>> result of complaints of actual interference from other licensees and
>> coordinators.  Most PCNs today are expedited to 10-business days or so
>> which is usually much less time than ordering and shipping of equipment.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 08, 2017 1:17 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval
>>
>>
>>
>> we have the radios and the expedited coordination is in process. Ill be
>> gone for a week but want to knock it out as soon as possible. If nothing
>> else ill just set the AZ/EL on them and wait to plug them in.
>>
>>
>>
>> I was hoping there was a backdoor thats legal, but i can be patient
>>
>>
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>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:22 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>> It does not take that long to get a license.
>>
>>
>>
>> The frequency coordinator can clear a pair in a day if there is a pair to
>> be had.
>>
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>>
>> Once they find you some freqs, if you are on a short time line, order the
>> radios and antennas.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would risk firing them up and aiming them before you get the PCN
>> clearance as the frequency coordinators are pretty danged good.  Low chance
>> of harming someone else.  I would not leave them on for any longer than it
>> takes to aim them.
>>
>>
>>
>> The absolutely safe way of doing it is to give the rest of the world the
>> 30 days to respond to the PCN stuff.
>>
>> Then if no objections buy the radios and antennas.
>>
>> Then file with the FCC.
>>
>> Then install and aim and operate.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 8, 2017 10:10 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval
>>
>>
>>
>> filed or approved?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Hardy, Tim <tha...@comsearch.com> wrote:
>>
>> There is no authority to operate until the applications have been filed –
>> period.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 08, 2017 11:59 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval
>>
>>
>>
>> Has the PCN passed with no objections? What does your coordinator say?
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 8, 2017 10:46:37 AM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] installing licensed link before approval
>>
>> Im pretty sure the answer is an absolute no, and I know I CAN do it
>> without likely being caught.
>>
>>
>>
>> If we have the gear on hand and are just waiting on the FCC, I know we
>> can physically install the radios, its just storage at height at that
>> point, but can we turn it on long enough to do fine alignment?
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