My mother in law (sic) had cancer a decade ago, about a year ago she
started losing weight. Alot of whispers, alot of "we shoulds", alot of
plans. When we found out she had gotten to the point she had quit taking
her arthitis meds because it had gotten to the point it made her too sick
and she was "borrowing" tramadol for the pain, the old lady confronted her
and laid down the law, made the appointment and went with her to make sure
she went.
The extreme pain is the multiple rib and pelvis fractures from the bone
cancer.

This is a great analogy for the current nk situation, everybody ignored it,
knew it was bad and getting worse, but nobody actually took any real action
besides some tough talk and no followup here and there. Now this doctor,
who i think is a hack, is the one who has to deal with a mess that almost
every avenue will deal alot of collateral damage. At the end of the day,
the doctor is wholey responsible for the course of care, but the
malignacies progression is outside his control. Its technichally somebody
elses fault, but does not change the fact its got to be dealth with today.
And none of the previous methods were effective, so those paths are
pointless

On Sep 5, 2017 5:59 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> wrote:

> As a father, son and brother to combat veterans, I pray for peace.  Every
> day is a challenge for my son and brother...my dad was sniper in Korea...he
> fought ghost in his dreams until his death in 2003.
> I wish we had a better man in charge, all bullshit aside.. don't care
> about party...
>
> On Sep 5, 2017 4:44 PM, "Steve Jones" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The strategy is similar to the stick of dynamite on a pile of more
>> dynamite thats around the support colums under an old folks home in a room
>> filled with tripwires that will shut off the oxygen to half the residents
>> the minute you go in.
>> There is no real strategy to be had, just the inevitable reaction.
>>
>> Last estimate i read was over 1.2 million casualties in the first 5
>> minutes of a military action ala artillery raining down in seoul.
>>
>> The "overwhelming" military response to an aggression from them (the only
>> way china will stay out of it) equates to a mass genocide on our part. This
>> isnt about our normal judicious delivery of freedom rain, this is an
>> advesary that is fully prepared to be extincted.
>>
>> The end of the day its going to be alot about prevailing winds and which
>> nations we want to rain radioactive material on if our missile defense
>> systems are successful.
>>
>> We have a chunk of texas in shambles, a territory about to be decimated
>> and another state in the path. Our west is on fire and our nation is on the
>> verge of a civil war. We just recommitted to a middle east conflict. There
>> really is no better time for the hermit kingdom to get froggy.
>>
>> There really is no way to have a full strategy in play for escalation.
>>
>> But, we have mothballed factories all over this country just itching for
>> a retooling. Radio costs are going to burp, but stabilize.
>>
>> The bad thing i could see happening from the production coming back
>> stateside is a trend back to proprietary everything
>>
>> On Sep 5, 2017 5:25 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Saying there is a plan or strategy would be generous I think. It is
>>> difficult to tell. I do know that for most of my life we have been playing
>>> the same game with NK and they have been whooping is at it. Seems like
>>> every president both R and D have fallen for there same BS. I guess they
>>> think "as long as it all holds together until I get out of office it is ok".
>>>
>>> What I mess. The only thing I know is that the stakes are very high.
>>> China has no reason to help us. If it is bad for the US it is good for
>>> them.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 4, 2017, 2:57 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nothing is going to happen against China.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Kurt Fankhauser" <[email protected]>
>>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>>> *Sent: *Monday, September 4, 2017 10:56:34 AM
>>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] North Korea, China, sanctions, and wireless
>>>> radios...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm starting to get worried if the US tries to punish China for North
>>>> Korea what does this mean for wireless radios that are made in China? Will
>>>> we not be able to import them anymore? We rely quite a bit on products made
>>>> in China for our everyday lives. I use alot of Ubiquiti products and if i
>>>> can no longer get those my WISP operations would be severely crippled...
>>>>
>>>

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