Yeah that report has questionable legality and incomplete research. I know what 
I'm getting ready to do...

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Sep 19, 2017, at 8:35 PM, Carl Peterson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> They are short UBNT.  They could look up UBNT's new address but that doesn't 
> help their case so why would they.  They shorted UBNT based on the theory 
> that it couldn't work unless it was run by a "real CEO" and management team, 
> I.e people from their club.  They got hit hard in the recent run up in share 
> price and are throwing all the mud they can find at the wall in the hopes 
> that some of it might stick.  This isn't a research report by a disinterested 
> third party.
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, there seems to be a lot of complete nonsense in there. They say that 
>> nobody is going to sit on a forum helping people setup home router, which 
>> may very well be true, but they seem to be assuming that the majority of 
>> what Ubiquiti sells is home routers... and I'm pretty sure home routers are 
>> actually a pretty tiny percentage of their sales. 
>> 
>> If you spend a few minutes on the UBNT forums, it's pretty clear that these 
>> "evangelists" really do exist, and there are quite a few of them. 
>> 
>> I could be way off, but as far as I can tell, the majority of UBNT's income 
>> is from unifi, airmax and airfiber... and that's a very different market 
>> from what the likes of Netgear is dealing with.
>> 
>> It's entirely possible that there is some kind of fraud going on, and there 
>> are some points in there that are a bit worrying, but there's a lot of stuff 
>> in there that makes me think they didn't do anywhere near as much research 
>> into the company as they should have before writing something like that.
>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I was not convinced by the argument that they're "too successful".  Some 
>>> Ubiquiti users actually are evangelists, in spite of Left thinking that's 
>>> not possible.  They do have disruptive products in spite of what Mr Left 
>>> thinks.  Left picked on outsourcing engineering to Latvia like that was 
>>> obviously stupid....when Latvia does in fact make electronics.  So he's 
>>> clearly not infallible.  
>>> 
>>> If the only reason for the empty office photos is that they moved, then 
>>> that's a huge oversight on Left's part.  Seemed like a smoking gun, but I 
>>> assumed the person writing the report is smart enough to find Ubiquiti's 
>>> current address.  Maybe I assumed wrong.
>>> 
>>> The forum being full of bots and lurkers seemed bad at first pass, but in 
>>> hindsight I guess all forums are full of bots and lurkers.
>>> 
>>> He also claimed that the amount U.S. distributors buy from UBNT is 
>>> incongruent with their claimed sales.  It could still be right if it's like 
>>> 90% overseas.  Is it?  How do we know?
>>> 
>>> Just askin.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>> From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: 9/19/2017 7:21:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. Is it time to buy UBNT stock?
>>> 
>>>> I see few points I'm worried about. They moved into a different office in 
>>>> SJ, I know that much. That happened maybe a year ago?
>>>> 
>>>> Taiwan thing is worrying.
>>>> 
>>>> I believe the Chinese mob tried to cause problems for them awhile back. 
>>>> Few years ago.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 19, 2017 6:07 PM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> I wouldn't be concerned about most of those. Which points are worth 
>>>>> addressing?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>> 
>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Brothers WISP
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 6:01:14 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. Is it time to buy UBNT stock?
>>>>> 
>>>>> The content.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> It takes a whole lotta splainin to make all the anomalies make sense.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>> From: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Sent: 9/19/2017 6:55:22 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. Is it time to buy UBNT stock?
>>>>> 
>>>>> The report itself or what the report revealed?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>> 
>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Brothers WISP
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 5:53:04 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. Is it time to buy UBNT stock?
>>>>> 
>>>>> My first reaction is they've sold a gazillion units of M series, AC 
>>>>> series, Unifi, etc so why would they have to cheat?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now that I've read the actual Citron report, I found it ......unsettling.
>>>>> http://www.citronresearch.com/citron-exposes-ubiquiti-networks/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>> From: "Jeremy" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Sent: 9/19/2017 12:26:46 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT. Is it time to buy UBNT stock?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, three law firms representing UBNT investors have launched 
>>>>> investigations today.  I think I will wait and see what they find.
>>>>> 
>>>>> "NEW YORK, Sept. 19, 2017 /PRNewswire/ -- Attorney Advertising -- 
>>>>> Bronstein, Gewirtz & Grossman, LLC is investigating potential claims on 
>>>>> behalf of purchasers of Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. ("Ubiquiti" or the 
>>>>> "Company") (Nasdaq: UBNT). Such investors are encouraged to obtain 
>>>>> additional information and assist the investigation by visiting the 
>>>>> firm's site: www.bgandg.com/ubnt."
>>>>> 
>>>>> "LOS ANGELES--(BUSINESS WIRE)--September 19, 2017-- Lundin Law PC, a 
>>>>> shareholder rights firm, announces that it is investigating claims 
>>>>> against Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. ("Ubiquiti" or the "Company") (Nasdaq: 
>>>>> UBNT) concerning possible violations of federal securities laws."
>>>>> 
>>>>> "SAN DIEGO, Sept. 19, 2017 /PRNewswire/ -- Shareholder Rights Law Firm 
>>>>> Johnson Fistel, LLP is investigating potential violations of the federal 
>>>>> securities laws by Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. (NASDAQ: UBNT) ("Ubiquiti") 
>>>>> and certain of its officers. Ubiquiti develops networking technology for 
>>>>> service providers, enterprises, and consumers worldwide."
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Interesting article.  They've had a high operating margin for a long 
>>>>>> time so if it was some kind of trick then it would have come to light by 
>>>>>> now.  You can't make imaginary money for very long.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>>> From: "Jerry Head" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Sent: 9/19/2017 9:31:02 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT. Is it time to buy UBNT stock?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://goo.gl/JqRHCV
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> 

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