Josh

Will you shall the radio info?

Mitch


On 9/21/2017 12:57 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
​The frequency agility between the radios is 800 mhz. Vastly different radio filters.
Both are capable of similar channel bandwidths.
This is all done at MCS0 / QPSK

I'm comparing, basically, their sensitivity and selectivity. The radio that is frequency capable of 200mhz is also capable of hitting 4096QAM, while the radio capable of operating in a 1GHz range of frequencies is 256QAM capable.

Basically, it's (the 256QAM radio) sensitivity at the same modulation and the same power is wayyyyyy closer​ than I would expect it should be - vastly different, and far cheaper components. TL;DR: I'm calling BS on the data sheet :)

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 12:23 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <li...@packetflux.com <mailto:li...@packetflux.com>> wrote:

    Can you give specific examples?  Having a hard time understanding
    for sure the exact specs you're comparing.

    In relation to the thermal noise floor:  just reducing from 1000mz
    to 200mhz will gain you ~7db of noise floor.   But usually that's
    in a channel, not in the entire 'frequency agility' area.  Maybe
    they aren't all that selective within the 1Ghz bandwidth.

    I've never been able to find a chart of theoretical required s/n
    ratio for each of the QAM's so I can't comment on how much
    difference there is supposed to be - after all, with everything
    else being the same (channel, modulation, power, etc), 256QAM
    should definitely require a lower signal strength than a 4096QAM
    radio.  They definitely shouldn't be the same with the same
    channel width, unless one radio is noisier or more susceptible to
    noise.

    And sensitivity should just be about the receiver, not the
    transmitter.

    On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Josh Reynolds
    <j...@kyneticwifi.com <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:

        Can someone smarter than I fill me in on something? I'm
        comparing some
        radios here (no names...)

        One radio is 256 QAM, with a 1000mhz operating range

        Another one is 4096 QAM, with a 200mhz operating range

        Can you explain to me how the sensitivity on the 256QAM radio,
        at the
        same modulation rate, same (scaled) power level, claims to be
        with a
        single dB or two as sensitive as the 4096QAM radio with an 800mhz
        smaller operating range?

        Anyone?

        Thanks :)

        ---
        Josh Reynolds




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