I would agree with that. We (as a society) give short shrift to mental health, and all the associated issues. We have to somehow get beyond the stigma, and figure out how to detect, and deal with this very real health issue.

bp
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On 10/2/2017 9:47 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
It seems like more research needs to be done on mental health and detection of mental health issues. While more difficult and more expensive, that would solve a lot more societal issues.



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*From: *"Larry Smith" <lesm...@ecsis.net>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, October 2, 2017 11:45:45 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting

While I understand your sentiment.
The only people that obey the law are lawful citizens
and people who are going to kill could care less so
any "new" laws are by definition only going to affect
those who are already lawful citizens...

While guns are top of the current FBI list for homicide
weapons, next are knives/cutting instruments,
then clubs, hammers, blunt instruments, next are
personal (hands, feet, etc).

To be honest, more people are killed each year due
to drunk/intoxicated driving than all homicides put together.
How about we totally ban drinking and make a real difference???
<sarcasm>

--
Larry Smith
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On Mon October 2 2017 11:25, Jaime Solorza wrote:
> Well crazy is crazy no matter what.  I don't care what allegiance they
> claim..this was a massacre committed by a fucked up person.  People died
> for no good reason.  As much heat as I will take for this, easy access to
> guns has got to change.  Fuck the politics.
>
> On Oct 2, 2017 10:10 AM, "Cameron Crum" <cc...@wispmon.com> wrote:
>
> Well that is some relief.
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
> > FBI says no...
> >
> > On 10/2/17 9:09 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
> >> ISIS is claiming he was a recent convert and they are responsible, not
> >> verified yet, but if true is pretty scary.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com
> >> <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     I have never been asked any questions coming in and out of Vegas
> >>     hotels. There are so many conventions they are used to people who
> >>     don't like storing all their expensive gear in the conference room
> >>     or whatever.
> >>
> >>     On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 10:49 AM Steve Jones
> >>     <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>         10 rifles and 10k rounds isnt alot of real estate for travel
> >>         luggage transport
> >>
> >>         On Oct 2, 2017 10:35 AM, "Jaime Solorza"
> >>         <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
> >>
> >>         wrote:
> >>
> >>             Bet you surveillance footage is getting analyzed.  I am
> >>             aware guns can be disassembled to fit in suitcase or travel
> >>             bags...but 10 guns if report is accurate...wow.
> >>             On Oct 2, 2017 9:06 AM, "Robert" <i...@avantwireless.com
> >> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>                 Expect metal detectors going in immediately...
> >>
> >>                 On 10/2/17 7:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
> >>
> >>                     I won't be surprised if there were baggage checks at
> >>                     the casino.
> >>
> >>                     Mike Hammett wrote:
> >>
> >>                         It would be irrational to change your plans, but
> >>                         we're all just people.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>                         -----
> >>                         Mike Hammett
> >>                         Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >> <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>><
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> >> ompany/intelligent-computing-solutions
> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/comp
> >> any/intelligent-computing-solutions>><https://twitter.com/ICSIL
> >>
> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>>
> >>                         Midwest Internet Exchange
> >> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>><
> >> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/comp
> >> any/midwest-internet-exchange>><https://twitter.com/mdwestix
> >>
> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>>
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> >> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/
> >> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>>
> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp
> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>>
> >>
> >>
> >> <https://www.youtube.com/chann
> >> el/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg
> >>
> >> <https://www.youtube.com/chann
> >> el/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>>
> >> ------------------------------
> >> ------------------------------------------
> >>                         *From: *"Kurt Fankhauser"
> >> <lists.wavel...@gmail.com
> >> <mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>>
> >>                         *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> >>
> >>                         *Sent: *Monday, October 2, 2017 9:44:58 AM
> >>                         *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Vegas Mass Shooting
> >>
> >>                         I wonder if attendance to the WISPA show will be
> >>                         down from this
> >>
> >>                         On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Jay Weekley
> >> <par...@cyberbroadband.net
> >> <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>
> >> <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net
> >>
> >> <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>>> wrote:
> >>
> >>                              A week later and some of us may have been
> >>                         at the concert.
> >>
> >>                              Robert wrote:
> >>
> >>                                  A best friend and his brother were
> >>                         there and had bullets
> >>                                  wizzing by him and hitting the ground
> >>                         around him and had
> >>                                  people falling around him.
> >>
> >>                                  On 10/2/17 4:12 AM, Josh Reynolds
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>                                      I have a co-worker who is there on
> >>                         a vacation for his
> >>                                      birthday until Wednesday. Haven't
> >>                         heard from him yet.
> >>
> >>                                      On Oct 2, 2017 5:51 AM, "Forrest
> >>                         Christian (List Account)"
> >>  <li...@packetflux.com
> >> <mailto:li...@packetflux.com>
> >> <mailto:li...@packetflux.com
> >> <mailto:li...@packetflux.com>>
> >>  <mailto:li...@packetflux.com
> >> <mailto:li...@packetflux.com>
> >>  <mailto:li...@packetflux.com
> >> <mailto:li...@packetflux.com>>>> wrote:
> >>
> >>                                          I'm not really even sure what
> >>                         to say.  This keeps
> >>                                      getting worse and
> >>                                          worse as more details come in.
> >>
> >>                                          A different festival on a
> >>                         different night and I could
> >>                                      have been
> >>                                          among the crowd.  Makes it even
> >>                         more real.
> >>
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> >> <mailto:forre...@imach.com
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