I have to say, as someone who just made the decision to change systems, I 
looked at both options. Here are my conclusions, 

1) If you don't like the business model or the architect of the provider, don't 
use it.  It's like arguing with me that I bought a Mustang instead of a Camaro. 
 Stupid argument.  I'm not taking the Mustang back regardless of your argument. 
 You like Camaro's then go buy one and keep it to yourself. (P.S., I like all 
Pony cars so please don't turn this into a referendum on Mustang versus Camaro. 
 Of course, if you want to.... let's hijack this thread, it would be more 
interesting and have more validity.)
2) If you don't like Sonar, then write your own or use something else.  Again, 
nobody else cares, it's your decision.
3) WISPmon was a good program which fit our business model which is why we 
started with it.  And I had the discussion with Cameron concerning local 
hosting versus web hosting.  We could have easily put up our own Radius 
servers, we have our own VM and Exchange servers now.  But with our size, it 
wasn't worth the cost or ongoing expense.  Now if we have investors who we have 
to answer to or were larger, then maybe, it would be more important depending 
on their opinions.  At minimum, I would have contracts with source code in 
escrow to protect us if they company went under.  I would also look at that 
option only if I have staff dedicated to managing it but I would also expect to 
pay for that.  If Sonar had a HotSpot module, we would have signed up with them 
without a second thought.  Our decision to drop WISPmon and move to VISP had 
nothing to do with the server issue but simply that we wanted an integrated 
HotSpot option and VISP had the same architecture with cloud integration that 
matched our model and needed it asap.

Rory
 


-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 8:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sonar

Simon, I guess here's my argument as well. On a locally installed instance I 
can firewall the heck out of the server to only my IP address is, and other 
various security measures like that.

If I posted in the cloud on the shared server, I would suspect that has to be 
more wide open to the world because you don't know where all people will be 
accessing the server is from. Is this a. Incorrect assumption?

I would also assume that on the cloud system all data is stored in one master 
database which if it were hacked for some reason would allow access to 
everyone's data as opposed to only a subset on the hacked system.

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